# A chocolate New Orleans.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 17, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352 "2006-01-17T12:55:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/1 "2006-01-17T12:55:30Z")

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“God wants it that way.”

- Right Honourable Mayor Nagin.  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/2 "2006-01-17T14:38:07Z")

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“Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it’s destroyed and put stress on this country,” Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.

“Surely he doesn’t approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We’re not taking care of ourselves.”

As Matt Lauer (or one of the morning talking heads) said: “Looks like he took the Pat Robertson school of thought.” (or something).

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/3 "2006-01-17T14:41:37Z")

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When they rebuild the city, they should call it Orleans[sup]3[/sup].

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/4 "2006-01-17T15:01:52Z")

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What’s happenin’, CC?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/5 "2006-01-17T18:03:21Z")

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I wonder what the media would have said if say, the Mayor of Burlington, VT, called his city a “vanilla” city.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/6 "2006-01-17T18:23:23Z")

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No you don’t. You already know the answer to that question.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/7 "2006-01-17T18:36:58Z")

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_“I don’t care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day.”_

Pressed later to explain his comments, Nagin, who is black, told CNN affiliate WDSU-TV that he was referring to creation of a racially diverse city in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, insisting that his remarks were not divisive.

\*“How do you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about,” \*he said.  
Mayor Nagin makes the baby Jesus break out.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/8 "2006-01-17T18:39:17Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> “ **Surely God is mad at America**. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it’s destroyed and put stress on this country,” Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.
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> “Surely he doesn’t approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We’re not taking care of ourselves.”
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> As Matt Lauer (or one of the morning talking heads) said: “Looks like he took the Pat Robertson school of thought.” (or something).

He must really be pissed at Southeast Asia.

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**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/9 "2006-01-17T18:50:46Z")

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And a [Jell-O San Francisco](http://www.lizhickok.com/assets/portfolio/pages/01city.html).

Since I haven’t read the news today, I had no idea what this thread was about. But now I am hungry.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/10 "2006-01-17T19:04:14Z")

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I am so disappointed. Based on the thread title, I thought someone was talking about a new and tasty dessert.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/11 "2006-01-17T19:12:50Z")

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OK, I think I understand what he was trying to say. More than a bit clumsy, though, and easily misinterpreted as divisive. This is why you shouldn’t try to make up metaphors on the fly.

New Orleans being the city of Jazz, you woulda thought that a metaphor involving a piano would’ve been more natural – that whole Ebony and Ivory thing.

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**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/12 "2006-01-17T19:31:35Z")

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Bring on the Praline Pittsburg! The Nougat New York! The Lemon Cream Lexington! The Nut-cluster Nashville! The Marizpan Minneapolis!

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/13 "2006-01-17T19:34:41Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Based on the thread title, I thought someone was talking about a new and tasty dessert.

“Chocolate New Orleans”- Sounds like one of them new-fangled “martinis” the kids are drinking these days.

Note to fellow martini purists- note the quote marks.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/14 "2006-01-17T19:41:03Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> _“I don’t care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day.”_
> 
> Pressed later to explain his comments, Nagin, who is black, told CNN affiliate WDSU-TV that he was referring to creation of a racially diverse city in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, insisting that his remarks were not divisive.
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> \*“How do you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about,” \*he said.

Oh. Well that makes it as clear as a lump of obsidian. I wonder how far he got on that bike he was backpedaling. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/15 "2006-01-17T20:04:38Z")

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My supermarket discount card has gone missing. I’m pretty sure it was because God is mad at me.

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/16 "2006-01-17T20:26:03Z")

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> [@Rodd Hill](#):
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> Bring on the Praline Pittsburg! The Nougat New York! The Lemon Cream Lexington! The Nut-cluster Nashville! The Marizpan Minneapolis!

So what is Boston? Chopped liver?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/17 "2006-01-17T20:30:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> So what is Boston? Chopped liver?

Don’t be ridiculous. Boston is, of course, **Boston Cream Pie**

(_Boston Indian Pudding_, while more historically appropriate, is too obscure and potentially divisive.)

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/18 "2006-01-17T20:33:23Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> I am so disappointed. Based on the thread title, I thought someone was talking about a new and tasty dessert.

See, I took it in a totally different direction. I was thinking “Dirty Sanchez” “Boston Steamer” … that sort of thing. Although to be fair I did also picture a minature chocolate city model on display in some hotel lobby.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/19 "2006-01-17T20:40:56Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> He must really be pissed at Southeast Asia.

Well, various religious whackjobs have said words to this effect, too. I’ve personally seen or heard at least the following - Christian: “Lots of Muslims died, God punished them”. Muslim: “You have been sinning, Allah punished you.” Buddhist: “We did something wrong, karma punishes us.”

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-chocolate-new-orleans/340352/20 "2006-01-17T21:28:55Z")

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So New Orleans is gonna be America’s Snickers bar? It already has the nuts.

😃

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