# A Christmas Carol - versions you'd like to see

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 12, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413 "2010-11-12T13:50:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/21 "2010-11-12T22:16:56Z")

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> [@Scarlett67](#):
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> I want to see Christopher Lloyd play Jacob Marley.

Be careful what you wish for. I actually saw Christopher Lloyd play Scrooge two years ago at the Kodak theater. John Goodman was the Ghost of Christmas Present. It was a God-awful performance – forgotten lines, missed cues, poor stage blocking, and a total lack of energy. Probably the worst version of A Christmas Carol I’ve even seen, including community theater productions.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/22 "2010-11-12T22:18:21Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Give me a gender-reversed Christmas Carol with Scrooge an aged Madam (of a whorehouse).

I like how you think.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/23 "2010-11-12T22:19:41Z")

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Script by Neil LaBute, starring R. Lee Ermey.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/24 "2010-11-12T23:01:44Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Script by Neil LaBute, starring R. Lee Ermey.

😃 😃 😃

I don’t know LaBute; I do know Ermey.

I was just about to take a swig when I read that! Good thing I didn’t!

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/25 "2010-11-13T19:42:18Z")

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Wait! How is it no one has thought of this one - All MIME!!!

😃

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/26 "2010-11-13T20:05:13Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> 😃 😃 😃
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> I don’t know LaBute; I do know Ermey.
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> I was just about to take a swig when I read that! Good thing I didn’t!

Not meant to make anyone lol. Meant to rip the heart right out of the Christmas spirit and show people what it means to fully live in the real world where charity is mostly meant to quiet the moral turmoil of those who give. Did I mention that Scrooge scourges the ghosts and puts the Cratchits back in their places?

There’s no God bless us every one. There’s no God. There’s just them that has and them that has not. “I got your name! I got your ass!” - and he with the most power and the least silly illusions wins the day.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/27 "2010-11-13T20:24:46Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> A _Firefly_ Christmas Carol  
> The impossible to script - A _Dead Like Me_ Christmas Carol.  
> I mean whose gonna visit her? Living people?

Heh. River would make a spooky Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come, but she’d make an excellent off-the-wall Scrooge, too.

A _Dead Like Me_ Christmas Carol would be easy; instead of being visited by ghosts, George would have her co-workers drop by in the wee hours for no damn reason, engaging her in oblique ruminating conversations that ultimately reveal the same point as the corresponding scenes in Dickens’s story. George’s old family would take on the role of the Cratchitts.

Rube = Marley; Daisy = Past; Mason = Present; Roxy = Future. Oh yeah.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/28 "2010-11-13T21:43:20Z")

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Hmm, I would have figured someone would have done a zombie christmas carol

Declan

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/29 "2010-11-13T23:30:48Z")

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A Dilbert Christmas Carol - PHB as scrooge, Dilbert as Bob Cratchit, Alice as one of the ghosts, Wally… um, not sure what to do with Wally.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/30 "2010-11-14T00:11:05Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Hmm, I would have figured someone would have done a zombie christmas carol
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> Declan

Hmm… The zombie musical from \*Joan of Arcadia \*would be a good template to use…

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/31 "2010-12-21T01:31:35Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> That would be awesome. The ghosts would be Sally, Lucy, and Snoopy.

Lucy should be Scrooge! replace her with Peppermint Patty.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/32 "2010-12-21T03:39:38Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> A “Peanuts” version would be cool. With Chuck as Crachitt, and Linus as Marley.

> [@etv78](#):
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> Lucy should be Scrooge!

Linus should be Scrooge’s nephew so he can give his big speech to Lucy.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/33 "2010-12-21T16:03:54Z")

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What I’ve always thought would be cool would be a slight alteration of the final scene, where Scrooge tricks Cratchit into thinking he’s about to fire him. In every version I’ve ever seen, the trick is given away to the audience in advance… we all know Scrooge is fooling. I’d like to see a version in which there is no giveaway. The Christmas Day scene at Fred’s fades out, and then we fade up on Cratchit running to the office the next morning and opening the door to face a scowling Scrooge, looking for all the world as if he has recovered from his momentary lapse of the previous day and is back to his old self… the fact that it’s a trick is not revealed until Scrooge himself reveals it to Cratchit.

Of course, everyone is so familiar with the story that this won’t actually fool anybody. Still, I think it would be a nice little twist.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/34 "2010-12-21T16:10:14Z")

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I saw a great one years ago that should be shown again: takes place a year or more after the original, and Scrooge is now the most generous man in town. The ghosts visit him again, showing him how he’s swung too far in the opposite direction, and his extreme philanthropy is having negative results: people are taking advantage of him, and Tiny Tim grows up to be a fat, corrupt businessman even meaner than Scrooge, and Scrooge himself is buried in a pauper’s grave.

The part I remember best is Scrooge waking up the next morning:

“BOY! Run down to the butcher’s and get a goose!”  
“What, the one as big as me?”  
“NO! The one just big enough for a family of six! And deliver it to Bob Cratchett!”  
“Half a crown for my trouble?”  
“Tuppence, and not a penny more!”  
“Ah, you’re a hard man, Mr. Scrooge, but you’re fair.”

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/35 "2010-12-21T16:17:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Give me a gender-reversed Christmas Carol with Scrooge an aged Madam (of a whorehouse).

A Gender-Reversed Christmas Carol _has_ been done. More than once, I think. No whorehouse, though:

> **[Ms. Scrooge (TV Movie 1997) ⭐ 5.5 | Drama, Fantasy](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0130883/)**
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> 1h 27m | G

> **[West of Broadway \> Shows](https://westofbroadway.com/Shows)**

[http://dovegreyreader.typepad.com/dovegreyreader\_scribbles/2009/12/mrs-scrooge-by-carol-ann-duffy.html](http://dovegreyreader.typepad.com/dovegreyreader_scribbles/2009/12/mrs-scrooge-by-carol-ann-duffy.html)

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-christmas-carol-versions-youd-like-to-see/560413/36 "2010-12-22T02:40:06Z")

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My church always did the Christian one, where the ghosts are replaced by angels, and Marley is replaced by the Big Guy Himself. And then we did a sequel with a plot I can’t remember.

ETA: Almost forgot–Tiny Tim gets healed in a miracle.

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