# A Clint Eastwood scene that's bugged me **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [May 4, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879 "2025-05-04T23:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/41 "2025-05-05T15:53:43Z")
Don’t get what it is, or why anyone would do it? Seems like, just buy a guitar, and treat it badly, and it will self-relic. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/42 "2025-05-05T16:17:40Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > why anyone would do it? That ⬆ Makes no sense to me. I don’t mind the look of an older guitar that has been wore due to usage, but to fake it? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/43 "2025-05-05T16:18:29Z")
Well, only one conclusion here, _keep your powder dry_. There’s a bath tub scene in _Hang 'em high_ Can’t remember if a gun was involved. There were bubbles. Clint must have really liked the bath tub scenes. We watch anything with Clint-baby is in. Ivy is in love with him. _Rawhide_ eps really are her favorite. I’ve watched so much Rawhide, I can’t tell you! It’s basically background noise at this point. I don’t remember (or chose to forget) if he was ever in water shooting a hand gun in that show. Sounds like a plausible scene. That man found trouble like a two year old. I think if I lived back then, maybe I’d avoid tubs full of bubbles. It attracts gun fights. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/44 "2025-05-05T17:48:43Z")
Well, my replica 1858 Remington New Army is extremely accurate, and it’s a replica of a pre Civil War cap and ball blackpowder pistol. So clearly the determining factor would be manufacturing quality, not design. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/45 "2025-05-05T18:57:49Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > > [@Plutonium\_Chef](#): > > > > Also, IIRC the Man with No Name (Eastwood) advised/taunted him to aim for the heart… > > Here’s the scene: > [A Fistful Of Dollars (1964) - Aim For The Heart Ramon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AUf_yGq6rU) I thought it was this scene. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DO9PtW-wMBM/hqdefault.jpg "Back To The Future Part III: Time's Up, Runt!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO9PtW-wMBM) ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/46 "2025-05-05T19:00:57Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > IRL, were the pistols of that era anywhere near consistently accurate enough that a person would bet his life like that? Civil War era weapons in general were a lot more accurate than most modern people think. An old cap and ball revolver is just as accurate as many modern pistols, it’s just really slow and a bit of a pain in the backside to reload. The sights on a Colt 1851 Navy are a bit meh by modern standards, but they aren’t horrible. Plus the longer barrel gives you a better sight radius than you get with a modern shorter pistol. Wild Bill Hickock managed to kill a guy in one shot at 75 yards with a pistol from that era. That’s a darn impressive shot even by modern standards. It’s also the closest thing to a Hollywood style gunfight that ever really happened in the Old West. A Colt 1851 Navy can hit roughly a 12 inch target at 50 yards. A modern pistol is probably going to be more like 6 inches (unless you have a high quality target pistol which might get it down to an inch or two). Wild Bill used to claim he could hit a playing card at 50 yards. I don’t know how much of that is truth or just legend, though. A Civil War era rifle-musket also compares pretty well against a modern rifle, although again it’s single shot and extremely slow to reload. The round is also sub-sonic, so bullet drop at a distance is significant. Modern weapons aren’t much more accurate, but they do at least shoot a lot flatter due to the significantly higher bullet speed. A really good Civil War era soldier could hit a man-sized target at 500 yards. A good quality Civil War era rifle-musket shoots about 4 MOA (which translates to it can hit a 4 inch circle at 100 yards) which is roughly equivalent to a modern AR-15. A Spencer Rifle isn’t quite as accurate due to the shorter barrel, but it can easily hit a man-sized target at 300 yards. A Civil War era cap and ball revolver and a Civil War era rifle-musket are both more accurate than my old eyes are at this point. Accuracy-wise, they ain’t bad. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/47 "2025-05-05T19:09:37Z")
Funny but when I turn on my TV, if I’m waiting for my wife, I often click over to Grit on broadcast TV for a few moments. Most often I see a couple of minutes of The Rifleman. But the other day, It showed exactly this scene w/ Tuco in the bathtub. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/48 "2025-05-05T19:34:28Z")
I like Grit. I guess. Its on my TV often enough 🤨 The Rifleman is my particular favorite. I carry a rifle just like his. Shooting from the hip is not even remotely possible. I know I’ve tried. Albeit, I was shooting at a target and not a bad guy. No bubbles, either way. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/49 "2025-05-05T19:42:33Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I like Grit. I guess. > Its on my TV often enough 🤨 > > The Rifleman is my particular favorite. > … Yeah - I would watch it regularly if not for the commercials. Always liked Chuck Connors. Always amuses me to see the same group of actors playing in all the various 50s-60s western shows/films. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/50 "2025-05-05T19:47:09Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > Well, the issue there is which gun? Tucu usually carried a frankengun: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/G-lowJUxPYI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) - Tuco Pistol Shop") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lowJUxPYI) ---
**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/51 "2025-05-05T22:11:53Z")
I have just read a book called **Chamber Divers** (_Rachel Lance_) about the team of scientists that determined how to use re-breathers safely for divers during WWII (as well as CO2 management for mini-subs). They were all geneticists at University College London, but they used the scientific method and their statistical skills to apply themselves to an vital military investigation. They carried out the experiments on themselves, risking spine-breaking seizures, collapsed lungs, bends-induced strokes, and death every time they entered a pressure chamber. On to Clint Eastwood - one of the scientists was a Jewish refugee called _Hans Grüneberg_. He had left the UCL team to join the army, and used his statistical knowledge to evaluate the spread patterns of ballistic projectiles. It was his analysis of shrapnel injuries that determined that steel body armour that was being considered for the D-Day landings had an almost zero effect on survivability at the cost of many pounds of additional weight. Not only would this slow soldiers down, for a coastal invasion across water, sand, and mud it could very well be a lethal addition. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/52 "2025-05-06T22:55:58Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > If you’re going to post, POST! Don’t monologue. Win!! ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/53 "2025-05-13T03:31:21Z")
To be fair, there’re no bubbles in the High Plains Drifter scene. [Clint Eastwood Dodges A Bathtub Bullet | High Plains Drifter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoc6V-q-Tj8) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/54 "2025-05-13T08:57:24Z")
Pro-tip: a genius told me DVR the episodes. Play back, skipping ads. It’s amazing how fast you get thru a binge-fest that way. I think its approximately 18min of show per episode. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/55 "2025-05-13T11:04:13Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > How about the Steel plate Clint wears under his poncho in the gunfight? > > It would probably weigh at least 40lbs. Still workable if you don’t need to move much; steel plate “bulletproof vests” [existed IRL in WWI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Body_Shield). [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/%D0%91%D1%80%D1%8E%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8F.png/607px-%D0%91%D1%80%D1%8E%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8F.png) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/%D0%91%D1%80%D1%8E%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8F.png/607px-%D0%91%D1%80%D1%8E%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8F.png) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/56 "2025-05-13T14:03:34Z")
There was a lot more than 18 minutes of actual episode in each 30 minute segment back in the FCC-regulated days of 1960s TV. They’ve been consecutively cut down to slip more ever-more ads in while they were being rebroadcast in syndication. Good bet the copies available now from the streaming libraries are the versions that got cut down the most. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/57 "2025-05-13T16:59:52Z")
Yep. I realize we’re just getting the highpoints of the plot. But eh, it ain’t that important. It’s a 30min Western. The plot is thin and mostly unbelievable. I can’t imagine anyone “back then” cared in the slightest if a “dance hall girl” (aka prostitute) was beaten up and aluded to being “ravaged” (\<_their word_. IOW raped). Of course, Chuck Conners took a special interest and maybe even like _liked_ her. But the kid was embarrassed about it. (See? Oh sorry. Didn’t mean to relay the whole ep…in what, 5min.?) Anywho, they created a whole 18min that gave the impression. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/58 "2025-05-13T17:56:56Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Still workable if you don’t need to move much; steel plate “bulletproof vests” [existed IRL in WWI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Body_Shield). Could this be the inspiration for the space suits in **Invasion of the Neptune Men**? > **[Invasion of the Neptune Men (1961) | MUBI](https://mubi.com/en/us/films/invasion-of-the-neptune-men)** > > Martial arts icon Sonny Chiba stars in an early role as a mysterious hero from outer space on a mission to save the world from alien invaders in this campy futuristic actioner. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879/59 "2025-05-14T05:30:53Z")
I thought the villain used a rifle? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-clint-eastwood-scene-thats-bugged-me/1017879.md?page=2)