A Clockwork Orange - discussion

FWIW, in a sense Kubrick’s version was a remake: Andy Warhol made a film of the book six years before. I much prefer Warhol’s, which has never been made available, um, legally, in any format.

Are you sure? The loss of his love of Ludwig Van was the big part, but when he came back home to find that his room had been rented out, his reaction to his own anger made him literally sick and completely incapacitated him. He felt useless and unable to stand up for himself. He was disgusted both with his inability to explain his new condition and with the new condition itself.

ETA: I may be thinking of the book, not the movie. Apologies if so.

I do prefer the truncated ending, BUT the extra chapter was the original ending, cut off for the U.S. edition. It’s always been in the U.K. edition.

I still think it’s a two-hour rape fantasy is accurate if not precise, but people are right, I definitely do need to go back and re-watch it. I think I saw it once in 1995 and that’s it. It’ll be interesting to revisit it.

In the book, at least (maybe in the movie too, but I’ve read the book more recently), he’s caught between a rock and a hard place when he comes back to the apartment. He gets visibly angry, and his parents and the new tenant see that and say, basically, “I guess you haven’t changed that much”–as he gets physically sick and emotionally disgusted at his own anger, so much so that he can’t explain himself, he wouldn’t be believed anyway, and worst of all, he would be compromising his own sense of self either way. That one moment defined the entire book for me: after all of his travels and his travails, here he is drowning in the sea of progressivism, while the Id Navy and the Superego Coast Guard fight over who gets to save him. That balance between bestial survival and human social responsibility (or the ideal of transcendentalism) is one I struggle with myself, as I’m sure everyone in the first world does. So that’s what A Clockwork Orange is for me–a story about living and dying in the developed world.

You’re all wrong. “A Clockwork Orange” is 2 hours and 16 minutes.

Guess you didn’t see post #13

See post #13.

see post #47

whoooooooooooooosh…

This thread has now officially become dead weight.