A conservative in a liberal domain?

Some conservatives/right-wingers are really into the naturopathy/nutrition/organic/non-GMO/cleanse/detox thing, like many a San Francisco liberal.

I’ve noticed that on some issues, they at least aren’t bleeding hearts. When you deal with deadbeats who manage to game the system for benefits or people who probably shouldn’t be in charge of kids, it becomes harder to be sympathetic all the time.

Good point, there are some prominent conservatives who are into “liberal” things. Grover Norquist had a blast at Burning Man. Then there are the “ex-liberal” types like homeopath Michael [del]Weiner[/del] Savage.

Punk rock is generally left wing as all get-out, but there are some notable conservatives (or just not far left). Johnny Ramone is the most common example. Some bands’ lyrics or crowd banter aren’t much different from a revival meeting, just replace “Jesus” with “NAFTA.”

It’s from a song that the Dead covered. Here’s The Dixie Cup’s version.

*The further right a person is, the more likely they are to preach it.
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Ironiclly Eschereal, I just ran across a pickup truck with: “100% LESBIAN” in blazing colors across the back window of her truck’s topper.

Phu Cat

Hundreds from the USA, Japan, Switzerland, etc

That’s a nice survey, but there’s self selection bias in terms of magazine readership and survey responders. If anything the survey shows older people’s opinion, which is clearly correlated with political leaning. In the current company that I work for the average engineer age is 32, and you won’t find a single conservative opinion.

But if engineering is a liberal field, then that proves the point. This thread is about conservatives entering liberal fields.

On the topic of higher education, I think there are certain topics in which a conservative professor could get away with being conservative - especially history, for instance. A conservative professor could speak about the Cold War, World War I, the czars, the rise and fall of Nazism, and World War II, etc. and have his views tolerated; maybe even applauded.

Well, but that tendency to proclaim their stance may be independently a trait of pickup-truck drivers…

(And if there’s a gun rack in the cab, nobody’s gonna say a thing about it.)

The null hypothesis would be that engineering field follows the same trend as the population at large (and really, any and all other subspecialties). To prove otherwise you need quality data to back up any assertion like that.

Like, a survey of engineers?

Damn, wasn’t there something like that around…post 32?

Unless, of course, your personal anecdote should be the “quality data” to which you refer.

(For the record, I worked for a company that taught FE and PE prep courses. My experience backed up the survey cited in Post 32. Engineers hold a particular disdain for liberal idealism.)

Not if they’re in it for the money.

Doctors I have known have been 50/50. It also depends on the field.

Yes, yes we do. Working for a university means most of your coworkers are liberals, and they invariably assume all of theirs are.

My take on this is that it probably varies regionally. I went to medical school in a “blue” area, and it seemed like I was the only conservative. Though my sample was skewed toward medical students (most of whom have never yet worked for a living) and academic attendings. But still, one would have thought that denouncing George W. Bush for being some kind of right-wing extremist who wanted to turn America into a theocracy was a fundamental tenet of the Hippocratic Oath.

Someone else already answered this upthread with reference to physicians’ education levels, but doctors are SWPLs–they’ve got that “urban sophisticate” mentality. I overheard plenty of med school classmates saying they could only ever stand to live in places like Boston, New York, or San Francisco, because they couldn’t stand to live among those awful Bible-thumping rednecks in flyover country. Also, while it’s true that traditionally doctors were small business-owners and thus would lean right economically, more and more are becoming hospital employees. I couldn’t find any good numbers through quick Googling, but I believe it’s approaching 50% if not already higher.

Again, I suspect this varies geographically, because my experience has been the exact opposite; the liberals have been the ones who “spew.”

neither magazine surveys nor anecdotes are quality data. I’m just saying that the overriding trend in the general population is a left-right correlation to young-old spectrum, and any subpopulation will follow this trend, unless there’s quality data to back a different trend.

One, huh? She needs to yell really loud for all of us to hear her.

ETA: And I know plenty of conservative types that are into “essential oils.” I think the reason their is a more rigid gender issue (and natural, as in from God = good!), so it does skew conservative here in the south.

engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%).

:rolleyes:
Already addressed. Please try to catch up to the conversation. Young people don’t read magazines much less be arsed to participate in political surveys.

Further grist for the mill. Highlights from the linked poll:
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[li]I side with Sanders greater than 88%: Greater than 64% percent of the respondents. (At least 81 for that question—I’m not sure how to characterize three of the responses)[/li][li]I side with Clinton greater than 88%: Greater than 51% of the respondents.[/li]
[li]I side with Cruz less than 34%: About 41% of the respondents.[/li]
[li]I side with Trump less than 50%: About half of the respondents.[/li][/ul]

Do you have proof that young people not only won’t participate in surveys but that they’re universally liberal, especially engineers?