# A couple of questions about moderating (Charlie Wayne and drewtwo99)

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**Created:** [March 7, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483 "2015-03-07T23:21:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/61 "2015-03-09T04:30:50Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> As I’ve mentioned before, the first time I signed up here, in my naivete I used my real name as my User Name. After a while, I figured that might not be such a good idea after all …

Why? I use my real name, and it’s never done me any harm, Henry.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/62 "2015-03-09T04:58:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Secret Mod tools.](http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/032010/9e66f089-fce6-4948-be16-dfce8f124c34.png)

I am disturbed that I knew exactly what that would link to before I even clicked on it.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/63 "2015-03-09T05:01:09Z")

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I too think that simply posting “banned for sock account” makes more sense, especially if it’s a long established poster.

This banning has spawned a thread over 60 posts long, with people speculating about sockitude. If the goal of the policy is to reduce such chatter, I’m afraid it’s not very successful.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/64 "2015-03-09T05:12:30Z")

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Not to mention the wear and tear on **SamClem** ’s keyboard.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/65 "2015-03-09T05:13:46Z")

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And the wear and tear on **SamClem** himself. 🙂

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/66 "2015-03-09T07:18:37Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Dude! Hope you’re happy. Three people had to be on an extended course of an expensive medication.:mad:

You kid, but, unfortunately, a couple people there took that post the wrong way. I just meant I put on a “costume” for one of their Halloween parties. They have a thing where they try to guess who you are, and no one guessed who I was. To tell the truth, I’m not sure I was memorable enough for them to care.

Sometimes I kinda wish they’d ask me before jumping to conclusions about what I mean. But I guess that wouldn’t be as much fun.

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/67 "2015-03-09T13:30:22Z")

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So the moral of the story is if you have a problem with cookies or other baked goods (or unbaked goods) just fess up to it.  
It was a funny thread but there was no reason he had to create a new account to start it. The great thing about this place is there are plenty of other members that will get the joke and run with it. There is no need to work both sides.  
What a stupid thing to do.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/68 "2015-03-09T13:43:06Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Secret Mod tools.](http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/032010/9e66f089-fce6-4948-be16-dfce8f124c34.png)

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**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/69 "2015-03-09T14:43:29Z")

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Wow, it looks so weird seeing BANNED under Drewtwo99. Seemed like a reasonable fellow but…ok.

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**Author:** ![callander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@callander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callander)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/70 "2015-03-10T15:12:36Z")

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If I understand a sock, it is someone with multiple accounts with different names, if that is the case especially with thousands of posts, the sooner banned the better. It is kind of gross that a deception like that could slide for so long.

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**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/71 "2015-03-10T16:20:06Z")

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> [@callander](#):
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> If I understand a sock, it is someone with multiple accounts with different names, if that is the case especially with thousands of posts, the sooner banned the better. It is kind of gross that a deception like that could slide for so long.

It was less than 24 hours from the time **NoBakeNonsense** made their one and only post to when **drewtwo99** was banned.

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**Author:** ![callander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@callander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callander)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/72 "2015-03-10T16:42:46Z")

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> [@sich\_hinaufwinden](#):
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> It was less than 24 hours from the time **NoBakeNonsense** made their one and only post to when **drewtwo99** was banned.

My bad, I thought this person had been doing this for a while. Not suggesting doing it at all is hip.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/73 "2015-03-10T16:58:22Z")

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> [@callander](#):
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> If I understand a sock, it is someone with multiple accounts with different names, if that is the case especially with thousands of posts, the sooner banned the better. It is kind of gross that a deception like that could slide for so long.

“Gross”?

You’ve got a _weird_ standard for “gross”.

It’s certainly a violation of the SDMB rules, but most web forums are less…um…intense…about socks. It’s hardly “gross”. Just violating a rule that (IMO) the SDMB takes far, _far_ more seriously than most other webforums\*  
\*Which is fine. Bright-line rule. “One acc’t per user. Period. If you have more than one, you’ll probably be instabanned”. Draconian, but clear.

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**Author:** ![callander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ed655f/32.png) [@callander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callander)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/74 "2015-03-10T17:54:55Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> “Gross”?
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> You’ve got a _weird_ standard for “gross”.
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> It’s certainly a violation of the SDMB rules, but most web forums are less…um…intense…about socks. It’s hardly “gross”. Just violating a rule that (IMO) the SDMB takes far, _far_ more seriously than most other webforums\*  
> \*Which is fine. Bright-line rule. “One acc’t per user. Period. If you have more than one, you’ll probably be instabanned”. Draconian, but clear.

For the most part I think we agree, one account per user. We don’t need to agree on everything:)

I don’t feel the need to get into gross, wasn’t trying to offend. To me it seems silly, foolish, (grossly immature) behaviour from an adult.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/75 "2015-03-10T19:44:11Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> \*Which is fine. Bright-line rule. “One acc’t per user. Period. If you have more than one, you’ll probably be instabanned”. Draconian, but clear.

Not strictly true. This is the case mainly when we feel the additional account was deliberately made for the purpose of deception. Sometimes people make more than one account by accident, or because they had an account years ago and have forgotten the password, etc. If we’re satisfied with their explanation, they are offered the chance to merge accounts.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/76 "2015-03-10T20:31:42Z")

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> [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](#):
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> Wow, it looks so weird seeing BANNED under Drewtwo99. Seemed like a reasonable fellow but…ok.

Yeah, bummer that he’s banned. But he presumably knew what he was doing and knew the consequences. I read “elsewhere” that he regrets having done it, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/77 "2015-03-10T21:09:10Z")

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> [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](#):
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> Wow, it looks so weird seeing BANNED under Drewtwo99. Seemed like a reasonable fellow but…ok.

[Quote=Warren Buffet]  
It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you’ll do things differently.  
[/quote]  
From [http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/warrenbuff108887.html#1gJZAawPET0wJPML.99](http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/warrenbuff108887.html#1gJZAawPET0wJPML.99)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/78 "2015-03-10T21:20:16Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I read “elsewhere” that he regrets having done it, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

Well, he learned [not to trust wiki.](http://m.wikihow.com/Recycle-Your-Socks)☹

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/79 "2015-03-11T16:13:54Z")

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Back to question #1, I get why the thread was closed I wonder about the last part of **mhendo** ’s question…

> [@](#):
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> And it’s not like this was some one-time aberration. The poster in question has, over an extended period, shown himself capable of making myriad idiotic statements, and then doubling down in response to criticism. Is he going to be permanently protected, now, from the consequences of his own stupid statements? Is he a pet project? What’s the story?

So why is this poster’s behavior been permitted to continue?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-couple-of-questions-about-moderating-charlie-wayne-and-drewtwo99/714483/80 "2015-03-11T20:54:22Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Back to question #1, I get why the thread was closed I wonder about the last part of **mhendo** ’s question…
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> So why is this poster’s behavior been permitted to continue?

What rule(s) do you accuse him of breaking by those actions?

Sure, there’s another rule many of us think he is breaking (see the Pit thread), but that has to do with an apparent disingenuousness of his actions, not the actions themselves.

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