# A Cricket World Cup

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 3, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577 "2003-02-03T20:23:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kiwiboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/35a633/32.png) [@kiwiboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiwiboy)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/221 "2003-02-25T21:28:34Z")

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Doesn’t Group B depend on what happens in Sri Lanka’s games against South Africa and the West Indies??

Depending on the results in those matches any of the top five teams can get through:

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[li]Sri Lanka wins both: Sri Lanka (20), Kenya (16) and NZ (16)qualify.[/li][li]Sri Lanka loses both: West Indies (18) and two of South Africa, Kenya and NZ (all 16) qualify (based on net run rates)[/li][li]Sri Lanka beats West Indies but loses to South Africa: three of South Africa, Sri Lanka, Kenya and New Zealand (all 16) qualify.[/li][li]Sri Lanka loses to the West Indies, but beats South Africa: West Indies (18) and two of Sri Lanka, Kenya and NZ (all 16)qualify[/li][/list=1]

NB: This assumes there are no more upsets from the minor nations or washed out games.

I’m desperately hoping that NZ’s last two matches aren’t washed out…

Group A is almost as convoluted, although Aussie looks a dead cert. Anyone know what the permutations are there?

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**Author:** ![BigNik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/73ab20/32.png) [@BigNik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigNik)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/222 "2003-02-25T23:18:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kiwiboy \*  
> \*\*[list=1][li]Sri Lanka beats West Indies but loses to South Africa: three of South Africa, Sri Lanka, Kenya and New Zealand (all 16) qualify.[/li][li]Sri Lanka loses to the West Indies, but beats South Africa: West Indies (18) and two of Sri Lanka, Kenya and NZ (all 16)qualify[/li][/list=1]  
> \*\*

Keep in mind that Kenya has wins over Sri Lanka and NZ, so they’d be through in these situations. In the second, SL would be through too. Actually, I think SL would go through in the first situation, too.

My money is currently on Kenya, SL and SA from Pool B.

Fortunately Pool A is pretty much dependent on what happens in the last couple of rounds to work out what happens with the Poms and the Indians, but I think they’d both be tipped to go through at the moment, with the Pakis going home early due to their loss to England.

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/223 "2003-02-26T11:27:30Z")

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An article about [Pool B](http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=38592990) outcome.

India-England starts in an hour. Does India have to win this ?

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/224 "2003-02-26T13:22:47Z")

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**Gyan** : If India loses today, they can qualify by beating Pakistan. (They would hold the tiebreaker if they, Zimbabwe and Pakistan finish level on points, as they would have beaten Zim and Pak.) If India wins today, they’re guaranteed a place in the Six.

At last count, India were 60/1 (Sehwag) batting first.

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/225 "2003-02-26T14:49:49Z")

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Now, 131/3 off 30 overs. Looking at 240, max 265. Should win from there.

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/226 "2003-02-26T16:13:39Z")

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250/9 off 50

4 wickets off last 4 balls.

Sri Lanka - Bangladesh start in reverse.

India win this one.

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**Author:** ![kiwiboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/35a633/32.png) [@kiwiboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiwiboy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/227 "2003-02-26T19:12:35Z")

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England is now 107/7 with a required run rate of 7.26. Looks like India’s through.

New Zealand beat Bangladesh, but only slightly improved their net run rate.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/228 "2003-02-26T19:15:11Z")

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107/8. Ashish Nehra has six of the wickets. The Internet radio commentators (from India) are beside themselves.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/229 "2003-02-26T19:17:32Z")

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Sounds like Nehra was a bit overwhelmed himself… ::bleah::

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**Author:** ![kiwiboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/35a633/32.png) [@kiwiboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiwiboy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/230 "2003-02-26T20:34:45Z")

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And India wins by 82 runs.

Two mismatches tominght, with Australia taking on Namibia and South Africa playing Canada.

Sri Lanka v West Indies on Friday will be a close one.

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**Author:** ![CyberPundit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@CyberPundit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyberPundit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/231 "2003-02-26T20:57:49Z")

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“If India wins today, they’re guaranteed a place in the Six.”  
I don’t think so. If Pakistan beats India and England beats Australia all three will have four wins each. Then in head-to-head there will be a cycle: P beats I beats E beats P so it will down to net run rate.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/232 "2003-02-27T03:28:17Z")

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Hmmm, looks like you’re right, **Cyber**. Although I’d have to say it would be pretty difficult for India to miss out even in the unlikely event (I mean, England beating Australia?) of I, P, and E finishing tied on points, as India have the best run-rate of the three. England hardly looks well-placed to improve its RR against Australia, while Pakistan also has Zimbabwe to face, and they’ve had their problems against the Zims in the past.

So, once again, it looks like England is counting on someone else (this time, Pakistan v India) to lose to be able to advance. Sound familiar. 'Course, the worst result of all would be for Zimbabwe and England to be level on three wins and three losses, because England will fail to advance because of the forfeit.

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/233 "2003-02-27T13:49:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kiwiboy \*  
> \*\*Two mismatches tominght, with Australia taking on Namibia and South Africa playing Canada.  
> \*\*

Surely, you meant Australia _playing_ Namibia. Neither team would _take on_ the other, for separate reasons.

It’ll be sad for one minnow in each Pool when they fail to win the match against the other minnow.

One thing, I don’t get is why don’t these batsmen go out trying ? They aren’t exactly in umm, _contention_ for anything. And they get out for meagre totals as it is.

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**Author:** ![jono](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ab992/32.png) [@jono](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jono)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/234 "2003-02-27T14:21:29Z")

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australia toying with namibia

mcgrath 7-15  
bichel 2-0

australia made 301 lehman takign 4-4-6-4-4-6 of the last over

namibia had a bright start 1-12 after 1 over  
mcgrath tightened though to get 6-3 of his next 5 overs  
lee bowled 158.8 his fastest for the tournament  
bring on england  
i believe against a moderately stronger side australia will come out a bit harder and should easily get 300+ if batting first

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/235 "2003-02-27T14:32:01Z")

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That’s bad news. McGrath may be peaking too early. Six catches for Big Ears too. Extras top scores with 15, and Namibia are gone for 45.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/236 "2003-02-27T17:40:00Z")

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There’s an unintentionally hilarious article in today’s _Wall Street Journal_ (the website is by subscription, so I won’t link to it) about former ICC president Jagmohan Dalmiya. The author seems to have a, say, tenous grasp on cricket.

> [@](#):
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> He practiced every chance he got on Calcutta’s dusty, hot pitches–the alleyways between the player who throws, or bowls, the ball, and the batsman.

Obviously the author is not Australian, or it would have been “the player who bowls, or throws if his name is Murali…”

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> Cricket is played by two teams of 11 people, who take turns batting with a long, rectangular stick…the primary way (of being out) is when the pitcher, called a bowler, manages to knock the top off the wicket, or the sticks arranged behind the batter.

I think I’ve got a way to pitch the game to my fellow Americans now…change the name to “English stickball.”

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/237 "2003-02-28T04:06:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duke \*  
> **Obviously the author is not Australian**

Where do I apply for a job at the WSJ ?

The research and writing standards are more, umm, upto taste now.

Back to cricket…

I’m hoping for a WI win and NED upset.

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/238 "2003-02-28T18:11:15Z")

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Dutch lose by 99 but bat out full quota.

West Indies in trouble at 76/3(effectively 4) after 17 against SL’s 228. Although the low total means they can come back.

Of course, the [crunch](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/cwc2003/hi/newsid_2800000/newsid_2807500/2807571.stm) match starts in less than 14 hours. I can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![kiwiboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/35a633/32.png) [@kiwiboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiwiboy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/239 "2003-02-28T20:34:13Z")

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Shame the Windies ended up seven runs short. That’ll put them out of the super six.

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**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2003, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-cricket-world-cup/152577/240 "2003-03-01T11:37:49Z")

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India need 274, doubtful.

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