# A curios question to those who ask for proof

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 21, 2001, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729 "2001-10-21T20:03:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729/21 "2001-10-22T09:44:12Z")

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Glee,

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> As for God, any sort of evidence would do for me. I haven’t heard of any - do you have something to offer?

I must say I’m rather flabbergasted at your remark. Did you mean to say you haven’t heard of _any_?

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**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729/22 "2001-10-22T09:55:14Z")

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I find it almost impossible to think of a way ‘God’ could prove it’s existence to me that wouldn’t be more easily explained by a hoax perpetrated by aliens with advanced technology or personal psychosis. The idea of an intelligent creator of the universe fits so poorly with my worldview that I can’t imagine being convinced of it’s presence. Several months ago I had a feeling that there was some higher power trying to communicate with me, but my life was lacking a lot of stuff needed for mental stability at the time (including a purpose) and now that I am in a position where I have responsibilities, love, and plans for my future I realize I was just mildly delusional, and I don’t need that mental crutch of ‘somebody looking out for me’ anymore.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729/23 "2001-10-22T12:41:59Z")

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> I find it almost impossible to think of a way ‘God’ could prove [its] existence to me that wouldn’t be more easily explained by a hoax perpetrated by aliens with advanced technology or personal psychosis.

Precisely. (Well, nearly so.)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729/24 "2001-10-22T13:02:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> Glee,
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> > As for God, any sort of evidence would do for me. I haven’t heard of any - do you have something to offer?
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> I must say I’m rather flabbergasted at your remark. Did you mean to say you haven’t heard of _any_? \*\*

Perhaps I should say ‘any physical evidence’.

I’ve heard of personal revelations. (I haven’t had one).

I don’t consider the Gospels, written 30+ years after the event and consisting of eye-witness claims to have seen the resurrected Jesus, to be sufficient. (We don’t even know if the witnesses were still alive when the Gospels were written, so it could have been secondhand reporting).  
No court would accept a case based on such testimony.

Many Christians, including my former Sunday School teacher, have assured me that it is indeed a matter of pure faith (as in belief without proof), and that there is no other evidence of God.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729/25 "2001-10-22T13:12:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rm1009 \*  
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> 1. How would you want God to prove His exsitence to you?
> 2. If God was to prove Himself to you, would you want Him to or are you content with your current believe? \*\*

I would settle for a vaugue inkling or general feeling that he exists and some small way is concerned about my existence.

Coming up snakeyes so far. I’ll keep you posted if further developments warrant.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-curios-question-to-those-who-ask-for-proof/88729/26 "2001-10-22T14:08:41Z")

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1. By holding a press conference, something like this:

[http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god\_clarifies\_dont\_kill.html](http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html)

1. Yes, if it’s not too much trouble.

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