# A debate on where America was before Trump. Were we really in decline?

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**Created:** [December 22, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-debate-on-where-america-was-before-trump-were-we-really-in-decline/928648 "2020-12-22T14:56:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-debate-on-where-america-was-before-trump-were-we-really-in-decline/928648/159 "2021-01-02T18:21:49Z")

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When did America start declining? These charts may help!

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