# A debate on where America was before Trump. Were we really in decline?

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**Created:** [December 22, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-debate-on-where-america-was-before-trump-were-we-really-in-decline/928648 "2020-12-22T14:56:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-debate-on-where-america-was-before-trump-were-we-really-in-decline/928648/52 "2020-12-25T21:16:55Z")

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It’s a global world. Wishing it weren’t doesn’t make it so.

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