# A Decade without Trek on TV **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025 "2015-05-14T12:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/21 "2015-05-14T19:52:46Z")
Since someone has mentioned “New Voyages/Phase 2”, it seems only fair to mention the “competition”, “Star Trek Continues”. > **[Star Trek Continues](https://www.startrekcontinues.com/)** > > Home page of the Star Trek Continues webseries. Resulting from a schism in the fan film community, STC has made three episodes so far, which are quite good. Me, I don’t count myself as a member of either “team James” or “team Vic” but enjoy both efforts and hop they each spur the other to better results. BTW, STC has James Doohan’s son playing Scotty and it’s pretty freaky. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/22 "2015-05-14T20:10:55Z")
I’m working my way through DS9 on Netflix myself. I saw all of TOS and TNG but somehow dropped off watching it during DS9 and after though I’ve seen eps here and there. I can’t believe Paramount wouldn’t think this is a good idea. If they can make a decent show, they will make money. Seems simple to me. They would even have the ability to do any time between Enterprise and Voyager and could even stretch past Voyager’s timeline a bit now. Think about that positive and exploring the unknown kind of ideal that TNG had but write it with modern audiences in mind. Stories don’t have to be episodic, character arcs, longer resolutions to stories, and deeper drama can be incorporated. They could even build it where there is this split between what happens on the bridge and what happens on the lower decks, like how BSG had different things going on in different parts of the _Galactica_. I would imagine that effects can be cheaper and easier now, so that would help too. They could even do it animated and I would think they would get viewers. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/23 "2015-05-14T20:44:34Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Since someone has mentioned “New Voyages/Phase 2”, it seems only fair to mention the “competition”, “Star Trek Continues”. > > [http://www.startrekcontinues.com/](http://www.startrekcontinues.com/) > > Resulting from a schism in the fan film community, STC has made three episodes so far, which are quite good. Me, I don’t count myself as a member of either “team James” or “team Vic” but enjoy both efforts and hop they each spur the other to better results. > > BTW, STC has James Doohan’s son playing Scotty and it’s pretty freaky. Thanks, I was unaware, something to watch tonight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/24 "2015-05-14T20:49:40Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I’m working my way through DS9 on Netflix myself. I saw all of TOS and TNG but somehow dropped off watching it during DS9 and after though I’ve seen eps here and there. I love reviewing the series. I can’t believe Paramount wouldn’t think this is a good idea. If they can make a decent show, they will make money. Seems simple to me. They would even have the ability to do any time between Enterprise and Voyager and could even stretch past Voyager’s timeline a bit now. . [/QUOTE] Their last 2 Voyager and Enterprise didn’t get the greatest reception, perhaps that is why they didn’t continue. Many didn’t like Voyager, though I really enjoyed it, perhaps personal inflection feeling far from home and a long, almost impossible way to get back, influenced that, actually I knew it did. Enterprise I get into later when it was on Netflix and It was a great watch. But at the time of the release I just could not get into it. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/25 "2015-05-14T20:59:39Z")
Star Trek: Mirror Universe. Conquer & oppress the galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/26 "2015-05-14T21:22:56Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > They could even do it animated and I would think they would get viewers. Like [this](http://nowstreamingpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/TAS-star-trek-the-animated-series-16634580-1440-900.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/27 "2015-05-14T22:05:32Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Many didn’t like Voyager, though I really enjoyed it, perhaps personal inflection feeling far from home and a long, almost impossible way to get back, influenced that, actually I knew it did. I believe that folks who do not like Admiral Janeway have issues with their Mothers. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/28 "2015-05-14T22:09:52Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > Just do the obvious thing and make “Starfleet Academy”, the TV series. Plenty of material to get a fresh take. For our youth-obsessed culture, cast plenty of young attractive actors and give them some fan-service stuff to do. Throw in some grizzled veteran professors for contrast. Tell us what it was like for the folks back on Earth with the Federation-level tech. It was called _Starship Troopers_, and it was an awesome _deconstruction_ of Star Trek. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/29 "2015-05-14T22:13:29Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Like [this](http://nowstreamingpod.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/TAS-star-trek-the-animated-series-16634580-1440-900.jpg)? I need my pain. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/30 "2015-05-14T22:15:01Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I believe that folks who do not like Admiral Janeway have issues with their Mothers. :dubious: Or we all have issues with YOUR mother. :dubious: 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/31 "2015-05-14T22:18:31Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I believe that folks who do not like Admiral Janeway have issues with their Mothers. :dubious: That’s ridiculous, and like the cries of sexism for not liking the show. The writers were obsessed with thinking that she had to be perfect to be acceptable as a female captain. Her flaws weren’t flaws within the universe, despite the fact that it what got them trapped in the first place her inability to either follow the Prime Directive or at least think of load a shuttlecraft up with bombs or beam them on board with a delay. And then the fact that her personality changed as needed by the plot wasn’t helpful, either. It was only when she became a mother figure to Seven of Nine that she became interesting–albeit as a foil to a better written and acted character. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/32 "2015-05-14T22:20:25Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That’s ridiculous, and like the cries of sexism for not liking the show. The writers were obsessed with thinking that she had to be perfect to be acceptable as a female captain. Her flaws weren’t flaws within the universe, despite the fact that it what got them trapped in the first place her inability to either follow the Prime Directive or at least think of load a shuttlecraft up with bombs or beam them on board with a delay. And then the fact that her personality changed as needed by the plot wasn’t helpful, either. > > It was only when she became a mother figure to Seven of Nine that she became interesting–albeit as a foil to a better written and acted character. I rest my case. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/33 "2015-05-14T22:30:51Z")
Manny Coto’s version of ENT was getting pretty good. Some of the back story explanation eps were a little over the top but even those were mostly ENTertaining. Ymmv,of course ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/34 "2015-05-14T22:41:02Z")
They should do “All Kirk’s Children” where two aliens from opposite ends of the galaxy meet for battle only to discover they have the same father. You know who. This sets them on a journey across the stars looking for their missing siblings. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/35 "2015-05-14T22:42:15Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > They should do “All Kirk’s Children” where two aliens from opposite ends of the galaxy meet for battle only to discover they have the same father. You know who. This sets them on a journey across the stars looking for their missing siblings. Hate Is Enough ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/36 "2015-05-14T23:17:21Z")
It’s been done. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/j_QVFXcSu20/hqdefault.jpg "Bastards of Kirk - Part 1: The Accusations") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QVFXcSu20) ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/37 "2015-05-14T23:36:59Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It was only when she became a mother figure to Seven of Nine that she became interesting–albeit as a foil to a better written and acted character. Kes was much more her child much more then Seven ever was 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/38 "2015-05-15T01:19:30Z")
I didn’t even start watching Trek until I was in college (2008). Before that I thought it was dumb and I wouldn’t like it. I saw a bunch back then when you could watch every episode on the CBS websight. First I watched the original and liked that and thought I wouldn’t like TNG because it’s different. Then I started watching TNG too (it was on Scifi channel back then). Then I didn’t watch DS9 because I thought it would be dumb Last year I watched all of TNG, DS9, and VOyager on netflix. I liked them Now I’m trying to watch Enterprise on NEtflix but it’s taking a long time (because it’s lame) I watched all the movies in college too. I actually watched First Contact before I saw the tv show the JJ Abrams movies are bad. casual star trek fans like them so for all of my star trek viewing life, star trek has been over that’s my star trek story ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/39 "2015-05-15T01:21:15Z")
I’m not interested in a story in the reboot universe. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025/40 "2015-05-15T01:23:04Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > Manny Coto’s version of ENT was getting pretty good. Some of the back story explanation eps were a little over the top but even those were mostly ENTertaining. Ymmv,of course Exactly. It comes from writing fan-fic. Wasting time with, “Oh, look, a sehlat! Oh, look nicitating eyelids!” I have not figured out why the author wastes time or pages on something that has nothing to do with the plot. Perhaps he or she is showing off, or perhaps he wants the reader to think, “OH, I know what that is! The author and I are so cool!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-decade-without-trek-on-tv/720025.md?page=3)