# A Die Hard reboot?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 30, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037 "2019-09-30T10:05:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cdc98d/32.png) [@Peter\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_A)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/1 "2019-09-30T10:05:42Z")

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I’m not really interested! ☹

> **[Disney Planning To Reboot The Die Hard Franchise](https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/disney-planning-reboot-die-hard-franchise/)**
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> With the reboot set to focus on a younger John McClane, fans of the character shouldn't get their hopes up for Bruce Willis to return in the new Die Hard.

The last one sucked. The one set in Russia. I didn’t think highly of the fourth one either, but 5 is awful.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/2 "2019-09-30T12:07:32Z")

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Words never uttered at a Disney production meeting:

“Does anyone have an original idea?”

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**Author:** ![Peter\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cdc98d/32.png) [@Peter\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_A)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/3 "2019-09-30T13:05:57Z")

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My thoughts exactly!

It’s time for Sly, Arnie and Bruce to retire. At least from action roles. ☹

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/4 "2019-09-30T13:15:29Z")

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I missed the one in Russia but I’ve seen the rest. Somewhere along the line, they forgot that McClane was supposed to be an ordinary guy stuck in a little over his head. He went from barely surviving a shootout in the first movie to shrugging off attacks from a fighter jet.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/5 "2019-09-30T13:28:04Z")

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“It’s like Die Hard, except they’re trapped in a bus!”

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/6 "2019-09-30T14:00:49Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> “It’s like Die Hard, except they’re trapped in a bus!”

And what if the bus couldn’t slow down or it would blow up? Brilliant!

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**Author:** ![Peter\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cdc98d/32.png) [@Peter\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_A)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/7 "2019-09-30T14:23:21Z")

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Isn’t that _Speed_? 😉

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/8 "2019-09-30T15:21:00Z")

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> [@Peter\_A](#):
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> Isn’t that _Speed_? 😉

No. It was called _The Bus That Couldn’t Slow Down_.

[Here’s a cite.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=DIrIvKKT_nk)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/9 "2019-09-30T15:49:14Z")

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It’s like Speed 2 but on a bus.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/10 "2019-09-30T15:57:32Z")

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I flagged this thread for a possible move by a moderator to Cafe Society (which would be a more appropriate forum for the topic).

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/11 "2019-09-30T16:08:50Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> It’s like Speed 2 but on a bus.

pfffft, w[e’ve gone way past that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9T1QR2cAqk).

Or maybe that should be \*whey \*past that.

anyone? anyone…no?

Please yourself.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/12 "2019-09-30T18:36:41Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> “It’s like Die Hard, except they’re trapped in a bus!”

A remake of _The Gauntlet_ with Willis in the Eastwood role could be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/13 "2019-09-30T21:34:41Z")

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[Moderating]  
OK, ordinarily I worry when a thread gets five reports while I’m at work. But this one was easily taken care of. Moving GR to CS.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cdc98d/32.png) [@Peter\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_A)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/14 "2019-09-30T22:39:07Z")

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I’ve nothing against Bruce Willis as an actor, but it’s just embarrassing to degrade a great franchise with inferior sequels. I don’t know what it is with these “alternate sequels” in the industry too. Laurie Strode died and then they bring her back, like nothing happened. The same with Linda Hamilton in the new Terminator film. After seeing Bruce Willis fall through a top floor of a building with no markings on that old age pensioner’s body, I was like, sod this crap. I’m done. All is not lost, though. We can still watch the old (and way better) films… ☹

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/15 "2019-10-01T12:23:40Z")

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> [@Peter\_A](#):
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> My thoughts exactly!
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> It’s time for Sly, Arnie and Bruce to retire. At least from action roles. ☹

Shouldn’t it be “Syl” and not “Sly”?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/16 "2019-10-01T16:59:32Z")

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I think they should remake it, but make some changes. After all, they shouldn’t just retell the same story over and over.

So, instead of him being a detective, let’s make him a Highway Patrol cop.  
And his district is the desert areas,of say, Arizona. or Nevada. Some desolate area.  
And instead of high tech exceptional thieves, the bad guys are more violent. How about a bad assed biker gang. Can get that whole Sons of Anarchy thing. Good for merchandising!  
And McClane arrests one, but he gets off on a technicalilty.  
And the biker gang kills his wife and children.  
So McClane goes on a killing spree, wasting the entire gang. Car chases! Big explosions!

What do you think? It SINGS!

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/17 "2019-10-01T18:54:08Z")

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Didn’t they just do a Die Hard reboot with [Dwayne Johnson](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5758778/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1) last year?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/18 "2019-10-01T19:06:11Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I missed the one in Russia but I’ve seen the rest. Somewhere along the line, they forgot that McClane was supposed to be an ordinary guy stuck in a little over his head. He went from barely surviving a shootout in the first movie to shrugging off attacks from a fighter jet.

This was going to be my post.  
Of course, lots of people didn’t realize this even when the movie was new, casting it as just another “he-man action film”, ignoring the fact that he spends most of the first half trying desperately to get someone else to come help him. Ah-nold would never do that!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/19 "2019-10-01T19:17:47Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Of course, lots of people didn’t realize this even when the movie was new, casting it as just another “he-man action film”,…

Actually a lot of people complained when the movie was new that Bruce Willis was no action hero. That they should have cast someone like…Ahnuld! No one would believe a puny guy like Bruce could be the hero.

And that’s actually the reverse problem with _Skyscraper_ - Mr Rock is supposed to be a guy struggling to come to terms with his disability, and start a new business, raise a family. He’s a normal guy. He doesn’t have time or money to spend working out all day getting into shape. So were we supposed to ignore that he looks like…Dwayne Johnson? Assume he was just born like that?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-die-hard-reboot/841037/20 "2019-10-01T19:18:32Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I think they should remake it, but make some changes. After all, they shouldn’t just retell the same story over and over.
> 
> So, instead of him being a detective, let’s make him a Highway Patrol cop.  
> And his district is the desert areas,of say, Arizona. or Nevada. Some desolate area.  
> And instead of high tech exceptional thieves, the bad guys are more violent. How about a bad assed biker gang. Can get that whole Sons of Anarchy thing. Good for merchandising!  
> And McClane arrests one, but he gets off on a technicalilty.  
> And the biker gang kills his wife and children.  
> So McClane goes on a killing spree, wasting the entire gang. Car chases! Big explosions!
> 
> What do you think? It SINGS!

He could attend a support group for people who are always finding faults in others and wear a sign that says, “I hate naggers!”

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