# "A Dirty Shame" worst movie in the free world? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 18, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847 "2005-06-18T22:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/21 "2005-06-19T09:26:46Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Naked Sherilyn Fenn beats naked Rose McGowan any day of the week. How can I get tickets to that? ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/22 "2005-06-19T09:40:27Z")
By the way, I’d just like to add that I was at the theatre on opening day of _A Dirty Shame_. And I still think that the only thing more brilliant than John Waters and Tracy Ullman is the _combination of John Waters and Tracy Ullman_!!! I noticed that the NC-17 version is now available on DVD. Is that the version you saw? If so, I’m jealous! The only reason that I didn’t buy it is that I also saw that there is a John Waters boxed set available (including the same NC-17 version of _A Dirty Shame_), so I’m going to wait until I have the money to buy the box. I guess I just run in a John Waters kind of a crowd. If you had trouble with _A Dirty Shame_ you’d best not delve any deeper into the Waters canon. The scene with the chickens in _Pink Flamingos_! Holy Christ, sweet merciful Lord! The scene with the chickens in _Pink Flamingos_!!! Why? Why? ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/23 "2005-06-19T10:04:37Z")
The chickens? The _chickens_? What about the _dog shit_, man?! For the record, I adore John Waters and Devine. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/24 "2005-06-19T10:16:30Z")
> [@chatelaine](#): > > The chickens? The _chickens_? > > What about the _dog shit_, man?! At least the dog shit wasn’t a danger to anybody. The chickens scene? Never in a millions years could you do that on a Union project, and of course the American Humane Association never got anywhere _near_ that film! Waters justified the use of the chickens by pointing out that they did get eaten in the next scene, so they didn’t go to waste! ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/25 "2005-06-19T10:22:54Z")
😛 Very true. I’ve got to defer to you on this point, the chicken scene was worse. The dog shit just sticks [ew] out in my mind whenever I think of that film. Divine was a dedicated, **dedicated** man to his craft. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/26 "2005-06-19T10:23:12Z")
Don’t watch **Musketeer** if you want a good action movie. Or even a bad action movie. Because it’s horrendous on every single level, mostly a waste of a decent budget. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/27 "2005-06-19T12:13:48Z")
Oh, this is the John Waters movie? I thought you were talking about the cinematic abortion [A Low Down Dirty Shame](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110399/combined?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MXxxPWRpcnR5IHNoYW1lfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxodG1sPTE_;fc=2;ft=20;fm=1), which even though I have not seen the Waters movie I am willing to wager is worse than the JW movie could ever hope to be. As for my own nomination, there is simply no contest. I give you three simple words: _Quest For Fire_. ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/28 "2005-06-19T15:04:37Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Oh, this is the John Waters movie? I thought you were talking about the cinematic abortion [A Low Down Dirty Shame](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110399/combined?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MXxxPWRpcnR5IHNoYW1lfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxodG1sPTE_;fc=2;ft=20;fm=1), which even though I have not seen the Waters movie I am willing to wager is worse than the JW movie could ever hope to be. > > As for my own nomination, there is simply no contest. I give you three simple words: _Quest For Fire_. Oh come on, now. You have a 19 year old RaeDawn Chong wearing a costume of mud? What could be wrong with that? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/29 "2005-06-19T15:26:35Z")
> [@BMax](#): > > Oh come on, now. You have a 19 year old RaeDawn Chong wearing a costume of mud? What could be wrong with that? Besides, any film with Ron Perlman in it can’t be all bad. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/30 "2005-06-19T16:28:50Z")
I watched Roller Boogie this morning with Linda Blair. It was all kinds of crap. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/31 "2005-06-19T17:13:22Z")
Obviously none of you have ever seen _The Wild World of Batwoman_. These films, most of them I haven’t seen, but they can’t come close to TWWoB. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/32 "2005-06-19T18:57:26Z")
The Brown Bunny ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/33 "2005-06-19T19:52:59Z")
> [@BMax](#): > > Oh come on, now. You have a 19 year old RaeDawn Chong wearing a costume of mud? What could be wrong with that? Plus, she teaches her captors how to do it in the missionary position, so there’s an educational benefit, too. Definitely not bottom of the barrel. Not even close. ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/34 "2005-06-19T20:23:26Z")
> [@zoog](#): > > I gotta put in a big vote for **Boxing Helena**. Ugh. Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is the very first time there’s been a bad movies thread and I wasn’t that gross violation of 35mm film. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/35 "2005-06-19T22:02:46Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Plus, she teaches her captors how to do it in the missionary position, so there’s an educational benefit, too. Definitely not bottom of the barrel. Not even close. You’d think that, but you’d be wrong. I saw this movie for $1. I demanded my money back. ---
**Author:** ![Ooner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@Ooner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ooner)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/36 "2005-06-19T22:41:53Z")
I can not believe that Happiness was mentioned in this thread. That is one of my favorite movies ever, it does not belong here AT ALL. Even if you don’t like/get it it’s still so far better than most of the _real_ crappy movies listed here. I also watched A Dirty Shame last night, and I thought it was remarkably funny. Not “worst movie ever” territory at all. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/37 "2005-06-19T23:35:29Z")
> [@Ooner](#): > > I can not believe that Happiness was mentioned in this thread. That is one of my favorite movies ever, it does not belong here AT ALL. Even if you don’t like/get it it’s still so far better than most of the _real_ crappy movies listed here. > > I also watched A Dirty Shame last night, and I thought it was remarkably funny. Not “worst movie ever” territory at all. Smithers, release the hounds. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2005, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/38 "2005-06-19T23:50:29Z")
I disagree with the assessment of Casino Royale as well. My pick? (Oh, the arguement I could start with this one): _Monkeybone_ Or maybe the version of the Fantastic Four that was made some time in the 90s so that the studio could hang on to the rights. Never released. Friend got the video tape, from whence my crowd developed the term “plot loaf.” ---
**Author:** ![richardb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@richardb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/richardb)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/39 "2005-06-20T01:59:49Z")
> [@Sage Rat](#): > > My vote is still on **The Stupids**. The fact you can actually quote a joke from this film would indicate to me that The Stupids has redeeming value. You remembered it! I would certainly disagree with your assessment. I would not try to claim it is an “intelligent” movie, but it certainly had its moments. It is called The Stupids, after all. I think they did the title proud. Unlike many “better” movies, I still remember several scenes, years after I saw it. Tom Arnold’s version of “I am my own Grandpa” was a favorite of mine. And don’t forget the scene where they end up in the astronomy exhibit after hours, and think they are in heaven. The janitor, with “Lloyd” clearly visable on his name tag, walks in. (Not an exact quote, but you get the idea): “I am the Lloyd” “We’ve been mispronouncing it all these years! Praise the Lloyd” As to the original post, I would not agree that A Dirty Shame belongs on the list of the worst movies ever made. It’s not the best, and not even the best John Waters movie, but it had a plot, the film-making itself was competent, the actors knew how to deliver lines, and I even laughed at parts. Could be much worse (and some are). ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2005, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847/40 "2005-06-20T05:52:25Z")
> [@richardb](#): > > The fact you can actually quote a joke from this film would indicate to me that The Stupids has redeeming value. You remembered it! Oh no no no. That came straight from IMDB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-dirty-shame-worst-movie-in-the-free-world/308847.md?page=3)