# A Disturbing T-shirt.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 3, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894 "2005-07-03T02:43:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/21 "2005-07-03T21:37:07Z")

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Me too, I kinda gave up on it.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/22 "2005-07-03T23:51:35Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> But an anti-Khomeini shirt works on _any_ ayatollah. Ayatollah Nakhbadeh, Ayatollah Zahedi. Even as we speak, Ayatollah Razmada and his cadre of fanatics are consolidating their power!

I believe it’s the “Ayatollah Assahola” t-shirt that works for any ayatollah.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/23 "2005-07-04T00:04:22Z")

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Ayatollah Razmada? I think I’ve stayed in a couple of his hotels.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/24 "2005-07-04T00:48:33Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> I believe it’s the “Ayatollah Assahola” t-shirt that works for any ayatollah.

You’ve got a point there. Well, I guess my Khomeni shirt ain’t gonna sell, then. Anyone interested in a jacket reading “Disco Stu?” It was supposed to say “Disco Stud,” but I ran out of room.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/25 "2005-07-04T01:05:44Z")

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Some people choose their T-shirts for shock value.

A friend’s daughter used to date a young man who wore shirts with dreadful things on them. Pictures of concentration camp victims, for instance. Messages such as **Ted Bundy Is My Hero** and **Timothy McVeigh Died for Your Sins**. Obviously, the point was to get a rise out of people who had an iota of taste.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/26 "2005-07-04T01:22:48Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> There’s a _New_ Mexico now? 😕
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> 😃

Of course! And you know what else? It’s a whole lot cleaner then old Mexico. DUH! :wally

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/27 "2005-07-04T03:15:48Z")

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> [@pinkfreud](#):
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> Some people choose their T-shirts for shock value.
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> A friend’s daughter used to date a young man who wore shirts with dreadful things on them. Pictures of concentration camp victims, for instance. Messages such as **Ted Bundy Is My Hero** and **Timothy McVeigh Died for Your Sins**. Obviously, the point was to get a rise out of people who had an iota of taste.

Fair enough; those easily could be identified as being worn for the shock value or (tasteless, IMO) ironic sentiment.  
The gentleman wearing the t-shirt in question did not seem like the sort who would a don shirt from your examples though; he was middle aged, pasty, and had an enormous drooping beer-belly. I recognize the fact that I’m judging a book by it’s cover, yes, but the whole picture told a larger story: in Publix at 9:30 at night, buying only beer, and the shirt was faded, stained and had a hole in it. Obviously a “favorite shirt,” well worn.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/28 "2005-07-04T03:53:33Z")

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> [@LaurAnge](#):
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> I can’t believe anyone would wear a shirt like that without irony.

A post that makes it worth plowing through the posts in this thread, but not subscribing to…_dammit._

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**Author:** ![Thanata360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Thanata360](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thanata360)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/29 "2005-07-04T17:36:03Z")

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> [@LaurAnge](#):
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> I can’t believe anyone would wear a shirt like that without irony.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/30 "2005-07-04T18:03:44Z")

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maybe he gets a kickback from al gore every time someone is offended enough by his t-shirt to post about it on the internet.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/31 "2005-07-04T18:57:07Z")

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Third what **LaurAnge** says.

Of course, the only way to find out what he thinks about his T-shirt is to go up and _ask_ him…

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/32 "2005-07-04T19:11:37Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Please…the correct phrasing is “Kill 'em all, let God sort them out.” 😃

And that happens to be my official stance on Hayward, CA and Worcester, MA. 😃

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/33 "2005-07-04T21:41:36Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> A post that makes it worth plowing through the posts in this thread, but not subscribing to…_dammit._

Thanks… I think?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/34 "2005-07-05T02:37:59Z")

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> [@LaurAnge](#):
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> Thanks… I think?

Indeed, Sir. My attempt at humor pales by yours.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/35 "2005-07-05T02:59:24Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> You’ve got a point there. Well, I guess my Khomeni shirt ain’t gonna sell, then. Anyone interested in a jacket reading “Disco Stu?” It was supposed to say “Disco Stud,” but I ran out of room.

Disco Stu doesn’t advertise.

Classic. That entire episode is gold.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/36 "2005-07-05T03:06:02Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Of course! And you know what else? It’s a whole lot cleaner then old Mexico. DUH! :wally

No, not really…

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/37 "2005-07-05T03:19:57Z")

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**Rand**? I think there might have been a little whoosh there.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/38 "2005-07-05T03:27:24Z")

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> [@inkleberry](#):
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> And that happens to be my official stance on Hayward, CA and Worcester, MA. 😃

:gulp:

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/39 "2005-07-05T03:33:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I suppose it could be ironic. I’d have thought that a guy wearing this shirt would feel like a complete tool, since the war there is over [you know what I mean] and clearly nobody is being nuked. It’d be like wearing an anti-Noriega or Khomeini shirt at this point.

It certainly could be ironic. I once saw a big poster in a Marine Captain’s office in the Pentagon during the Vietnam war. It read, more or less, “Join the Marines. Get superb training. Travel to foreign countries. Meet many interesting people. And kill them.”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-disturbing-t-shirt/310894/40 "2005-07-05T12:25:27Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> It read, more or less, “Join the Marines. Get superb training. Travel to foreign countries. Meet many interesting people. And kill them.”

Hey, _I_ saw a young female recruiter for the US Army wearing a T-Shirt with “Marines” replaced by “Army”, of course.

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