# A Euro 2004 thread - better late than never....(It's about soccerball) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 11, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832 "2004-06-11T16:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/201 "2004-06-23T19:36:54Z")
Ye Gads, I can’t stand the excitement. 🙂 [spoiler]Halftime. Holland 2, Latvia 0, which was to be expected. We’re way better. Germany 1, Czech Republic 1!!! If this is the final score, we advance. Remind me to spend lots of money in Prague soon, if the Czechs keep this up.:[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/202 "2004-06-23T19:51:35Z")
omg, omg, omg…40 min. to go. :eek: Originally posted by \*\*PookahMacPhellimey \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Ha! You make it sound like an achievement. \* But that’s exactly what it is. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/203 "2004-06-23T21:08:57Z")
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!! :D:D:D I hereby knight messieurs Heinz and Barros in the Order of the Dutch Lion. You normally have to be Dutch to achieve that, but what the hell, they’ve earned it. 😃 'T wasn’t a great match, but the Dutch did what they had to do (win convincingly), and the Czechs fulfilled their sportly duty. Germany came close a few times (I’ll tell you, switching between games on live TV? Bad for the heart!), but in the end, all was well. Sweden, beware. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fortytwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f9ae1b/32.png) [@fortytwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fortytwo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/204 "2004-06-23T21:35:30Z")
Germany had their chances and failed to take them. They are a shadow of their former selves right now. Like Italy last night they just didn’t deserve to progress. If this was the Czech second team then heaven help us all. The Heinz free kick to equalise was a cracker- reminds me of Beckham when he was young and could do the same thing. I couldn’t have picked a better time to be housebound, I’ve seen some terrific games in the last 10 days. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/205 "2004-06-23T21:39:42Z")
All right, call me a chauvinist cheese pig, but I really think we can take the Swedes. I honestly do. I mean, they’re good. Real good. But If Holland plays as well as they did against the Czech Republic, minus the mistakes, we CAN beat them. Trouble is, we’ll then meat the Czechs in the semifinals again. :eek: Well, unless the Danes beat them in the quarters, but honestly, that’s highly unlikely. So, my prediction is that Holland ends in the semifinals by losing to the Czechs, again. And the final match? Czechs versus England. And the Czechs will win. If that really does happen, then I think any footie fan must agree the best team of the championship won. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/206 "2004-06-23T21:44:41Z")
**Thank you Czechs!** True sportsmen. _Beer, beer everywhere and not a drop of water_ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kellner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c2a13f/32.png) [@kellner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellner)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/207 "2004-06-23T21:58:27Z")
> [@Vetch](#): > > They are a shadow of their former selves right now. Like Italy last night they just didn’t deserve to progress. Absolutely. Actually they have been a shadow of their former self since about 1996. In recent years they have been third class at best. Of course many people let the world cup in 2002 deceive them, but seriously, whom did they beat? The US and South Korea in the final round - Well, :rolleyes: Of course I would have liked to see them advance further, but actually this result is not the slightest bit surprising. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/208 "2004-06-23T22:05:02Z")
> [@Coldfire](#): > > Trouble is, we’ll then meat the Czechs in the semifinals again. :eek: > > Well, unless the Danes beat them in the quarters, but honestly, that’s highly unlikely. > > So, my prediction is that Holland ends in the semifinals by losing to the Czechs, again. And the final match? Czechs versus England. And the Czechs will win. No, according to my wallchart you’ll be up against either the English goal machine or Portugal in the semis. The other semi-final is looking like France - Czech Republic. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/209 "2004-06-23T23:17:21Z")
> [@Coldfire](#): > > Trouble is, we’ll then meat the Czechs in the semifinals again. :eek: You can’t. It’s always set up so the two teams that qualify from a group can’t meet again until the final. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/210 "2004-06-23T23:42:40Z")
All right, all right, my mistake. Some alcohol was consumed, OK? 🙂 Off to bed now, to dream the orange dream. ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/211 "2004-06-23T23:50:14Z")
Nice one. Was glad to see the dutch go through as i’ve felt they’ve played the better football. Looking forward to meeting them in the semi-final 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mkl12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@mkl12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkl12)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/212 "2004-06-23T23:54:25Z")
Congratulations, Dutch dopers 🙂 ! I’m sad that Germany lost, but we obviously didn’t deserve to win. Missing all those chances was unforgivable. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/213 "2004-06-24T00:40:26Z")
**Coldfire** , you’re a chauvinist cheese pig. (Hey, a mod told me to say it!) Ah, you may be right about beating the Swedes, but I’ll be rooting for them on Saturday anyway. Doesn’t really matter though, as the Swedish women can kick your women’s behinds six ways from Saturday. They’re the team I really root for. Hanna – the _real_ Ljungberg. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/214 "2004-06-24T05:25:56Z")
It’s a good day when the Dutch advance at the expense of Germany. And Italy leaving yesterday was just icing. ---
**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/215 "2004-06-24T07:29:58Z")
Yiiiiiippeeeeee! ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/216 "2004-06-24T07:41:46Z")
Thank you, **mkl12**. Very sportsmanlike. Which is more than I can say about our supporters. On behalf of the Dutch: Apologies for their conduct. ☹ Maybe we see each-other soon, for a thrill-filled Deutschland - Holland again. huh. Leb wohl. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/217 "2004-06-24T07:56:10Z")
Our supporters in Portugal seemed to be doing all right. Sure, the usual chants of _“Schade, Deutschland, alles ist vorbei”_ were heard, but that’s par for the course, really. It’s a back and forth game that’s generally not ill-spirited. Take for example the infamous and now hilarious German website [Ihr-seit-nicht-lange-dabei.de](http://www.ihr-seid-nicht-lange-dabei.de/) (“You won’t be there for long”), aimed at mocking the Dutch. It’s the follow-up of [Ihr-seit-nicht-dabei.de](http://Ihr-seit-nicht-dabei.de), a website coined in 2002 when we failed to qualify for the world cup. Personally, I don’t mind this sort of thing - there’ll always be rivalry between Holland and Germany. We just need to keep emphasising to the rest of the world that we’re feuding over the 1974 world cup final, not WWII. 🙂 I was very disappointed to learn that drunk football “fans” had been damaging cars with German plates in Venlo last night. That sort of stupidity is just uncalled for. But other than that, the Orange Army seems to be a harmless bunch of drunk dopes who are just looking for fun and good matches. I can think of worse football crowds. **Lily** , bring it on! We’re ready for you, uh… (in keeping with **owlstretchingtime** ’s theme) good-fer-nothin’ Grevé-munchin’ last-minute-draw monkeys. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/218 "2004-06-24T08:26:37Z")
> [@Coldfire](#): > > **Lily** , bring it on! We’re ready for you, uh… (in keeping with **owlstretchingtime** ’s theme) good-fer-nothin’ Grevé-munchin’ last-minute-draw monkeys. 😃 That’s right! And you need to be punished for ever creating IKEA. I don’t know how many times I have had to take apart some dumb IKEA furniture halfway through because the diagrams were unclear, or how many times I was almost finished and one lousy part was missing! If it wasn’t for the Kallas Cod Roe spread (for which I now have a serious jones) IKEA would have no reason to exist at all. So, in the name of all those frustrated by BILLY bookcases, PAX wardrobes, and ROBIN desks: Hup Holland!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/219 "2004-06-24T09:39:33Z")
> [@PookahMacPhellimey](#): > > Yiiiiiippeeeeee! Hup Holland Hup Laat de Leeuw niet in z’n Hempie staan Hup Holland Hup Trek 't Beessie geen Pantoffels aan Hup Holland Hup Laat je uit het Veld niet slaan Want een Leeuw op Voetbalschoenen Kan de hele Wereld aan. Kan de hele Wereld aan. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2004, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832/220 "2004-06-24T09:59:12Z")
You Are My Larsson! My Henrik Larsson! You Make me Happy when skies are grey remember 6-2! Advocaat still fears you! Its time to send, the dutchies, away! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-euro-2004-thread-better-late-than-never-its-about-soccerball/249832.md?page=12)