# A&F Fires Ugly Sales Help? Is This a HATE Crime? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 8, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-f-fires-ugly-sales-help-is-this-a-hate-crime/217739 "2003-12-08T18:36:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-f-fires-ugly-sales-help-is-this-a-hate-crime/217739/21 "2003-12-09T17:21:26Z")
According to this article, a class-action suit has already been filed. [Retailer’s image problem: Racism](http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/12/09/BAGEM3J5H01.DTL) > [@](#): > > Neither, apparently, do young minority applicants, according to a class- action suit filed against the 602-store chain. The plaintiffs claim Abercrombie & Fitch discriminates against minorities by pressuring stores to hire sales associates who fit the "A&F look,’’ which from their catalogs, advertisements and looping videos in their stores, is white, young and preferably blond. The plaintiffs claim they were denied jobs or squeezed out of jobs because of their race or ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![Wyld\_Stallyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Wyld\_Stallyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyld_Stallyn)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-f-fires-ugly-sales-help-is-this-a-hate-crime/217739/22 "2003-12-09T17:24:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Are the back-of-the-store unattractive A&F employees paid the same amount as the front-of-the-store A&F employees? Do they get the same benefits or the same opportunity for advancement in the company? Full disclosure: Former A&F employee (during college). I had one African-American manager and one Hispanic-American manager in addition to several other Caucasian managers. Yes. Everyone makes the same amount (a figure that hovers near or at the minimum wage line). Regardless of your day-to-day duties, you are officially a “Brand Representative”, and the pay structure, benefits, and advancement opportunities are the same. I performed pretty much any of the tasks that one would perform while in the employ of A&F (cashiering, folding clothes, greeting, stockroom organizing), as did most of my fellow associates. The only thing I will say is that sometimes the girls would complain when they had to work in the stockroom, and depending on the manager on duty, they would sometimes be granted a reprieve. Lastly, as far as offering attractive girls applications, this was definitely standard practice by myself and my cronies, but I don’t think that it’s mandated by anything other than the hormonal makeup of gentleman aged 18-24 years. ---
**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-f-fires-ugly-sales-help-is-this-a-hate-crime/217739/23 "2003-12-11T08:50:17Z")
Reason #568 why I cannot stand this brand. It is the empitomie of “Be rich, white, young and thin, or you might as well die”. Am I the only one who thinks this so called “snoobish” brand is owned by The Limited? I love being a dem. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-f-fires-ugly-sales-help-is-this-a-hate-crime/217739/24 "2003-12-11T13:46:59Z")
Just for the sake of being informed, I checked out A&F stock price. They are at $24.35/share, and they are making a TON of money ($2.05/share)! So, whatever you think of them, they are obscenely profitable.I guess nude teenagers must sell clothes! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-f-fires-ugly-sales-help-is-this-a-hate-crime/217739.md?page=1)