# A fag by any other name...well is just a fag... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267 "2003-03-14T05:10:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bindrah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Bindrah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bindrah)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/1 "2003-03-14T05:10:06Z")
I was in imho and a discussion about the word fag came up. Actually I used faggoty fairy to describe what I am not. It offended a few and I tried to argue that I’m bi, i feel like I’m allowed to say that about myself. I feel as though it’s ok to use the word to describe someone and not try to use it as ammo and hurt another. For crying out loud, if you hang out with gay people long enough you’ll hear it said plenty. Especially,in my opinion, if they aren’t too busy trying to push their lifestyle into the public eye. Most gay people i know aren’t offened by the words faggoty fairy. Its simply aother way of saying I’m not a bottom I will punch you in the face. Or whatever. I don’t believe its something to get bent out of shape about. I still compare it to blacks calling themselves niggers. If you offend another in the process, tough, deal with it. To those of you I offended by the use of fag on that board, lets agree to disagree, shall we. After all, only a faggoty fairy would let something so silly get under their skin. :smack: Damn! Sorry.Come on, It isn’t as if I tied matthew sheppard up and whispered that into his ear as he lay dying. Don’t compare it to something that heinous. I used fag in a post about the size of men penises being attractive. damn. Are there any gay men that agree? ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/2 "2003-03-14T05:19:34Z")
ohhhhh boy… ---
**Author:** ![Ankh\_Too](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Ankh\_Too](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ankh_Too)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/3 "2003-03-14T05:21:31Z")
You know, if you really do have unresolved death wish issues, it would be so much easier for us all if you’d just drink the kool aid. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/4 "2003-03-14T05:21:33Z")
Maybe a [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169239) to the thread in question would help? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/5 "2003-03-14T05:23:13Z")
By the way, does this count towards my pit thread total? ---
**Author:** ![Bindrah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Bindrah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bindrah)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/6 "2003-03-14T05:25:51Z")
There you go with the group mentality thing. If you have an issue with what I posted, speak on it. ---
**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/7 "2003-03-14T05:28:25Z")
You are really a fucking moron. There’s nothing wrong with YOU using a word because it doesn’t offend YOU? Even though YOU are bisexual? Not homosexual? And of COURSE not one of those ‘faggoty fairies’. It’s not all about you, shithead. ---
**Author:** ![Convict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Convict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Convict)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/8 "2003-03-14T05:29:47Z")
Wow. As a newbie I have been reluctant to comment on any of your posts. I feel that some of the other long time posters here are better qualified than I am to do that. However, I can’t hold it back any longer. You are a fucking idiot. Yes, you are free to express yourself as you see fit, but for Og’s sake, show a little bit of intelligence every now and then. That’s all I have to say. For now on, “DNFTT” is my motto. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/9 "2003-03-14T05:33:45Z")
Oh, wonderful. Just when I’d decided to give you the benefit of the doubt in your other lame-ass Pit thread, you pull this shit. Here’s another vote for “fucking idiot.” ---
**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/10 "2003-03-14T05:34:52Z")
It has negative connotations , just like nigger does. And I still do not see the right for you to people “fairy fags” even if you’re bisexual. Also, you’re a moron. I guess you enjoy multiple pittings. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/11 "2003-03-14T05:37:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Czarcasm \* > \*\*By the way, does this count towards my pit thread total? \*\* Well, since up to this point the only one to mention you was you, I’d have to say it doesn’t count. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/12 "2003-03-14T05:49:17Z")
That OP was so gay. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/13 "2003-03-14T05:53:27Z")
Run, now, fast. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/14 "2003-03-14T05:54:49Z")
INCOMING!!! ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/15 "2003-03-14T05:56:45Z")
Hmmm… "I’m not a “_Faggoty_ Fairy”! “I’m **not** a Faggoty _Fairy_”! … nahhh you’d still be better of with “I’m not a bottom, I will punch you in the face”. That way they are clear just what a rough and tough pair of non-faggoty hombres you and your penis are. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/16 "2003-03-14T06:01:03Z")
::sigh:: We don’t allow hate speech on this message board. This includes people calling THEMSELVES fags, niggers, whatever. Lynn For the Straight Dope ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/17 "2003-03-14T06:15:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > \*\*::sigh:: > > We don’t allow hate speech on this message board. This includes people calling THEMSELVES fags, niggers, whatever. > > Lynn > For the Straight Dope \*\* Out of curiosity just what _is_ “hate speech” definition wise? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/18 "2003-03-14T06:19:55Z")
Maybe he’s self hating? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/19 "2003-03-14T06:52:02Z")
So, out of curiosity, how many warnings does it usually take before someone gets banned? He’s been told to straighten up and fly right by mods in GQ and IMHO that I know of, and by Lynn here. I’d guess that ice he’s doing figure 8’s on is just about to break. So, who wants to start a pool for when he’ll finally get the boot? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267/20 "2003-03-14T06:54:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by astro \* > \*\*Out of curiosity just what _is_ “hate speech” definition wise? \*\* I’d say it’s any term used to deride a minority group. That’s the usual working definition, anyway. You know, niggers, fags, dykes, sheenies, towel-heads, that sort of thing. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fag-by-any-other-name-well-is-just-a-fag/161267.md?page=2)