# A Favor for Mark Serlin

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 3, 1999, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480 "1999-12-03T00:57:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/41 "1999-12-23T20:31:00Z")

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> which reduces you to a minority and therefore below the average norm.

Hey, Mark. A minority of people have above average intelligence. We understand the difference between a relationship to the norm and a relationship to the mode. Sometimes we look down on the rest of you. Sometimes you give us little choice.

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The best lack all conviction  
The worst are full of passionate intensity.  
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/42 "1999-12-23T21:59:00Z")

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Byz may have flat hair,but Mark has a flat head.Gosh,dont ya hate it when a guy doesn’t poof his head up for you?

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**Author:** ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/43 "1999-12-23T22:16:00Z")

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God, I’m sorry Zette, I tried. I really did.

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> Those who have experienced negative comments concerning their size are often the first to respond to any perceived slander.

Yes, and those who have experienced negative comments concerning their lovemaking techniques are often the first to repsond to any perceived slander.

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> THIS IS ONLY FROM THE MAN’S POINT OF VIEW AND DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT HE WOULD BE DOING FOR HIS PARTNER.

So, in other words, dumbass, you’re not going to be showing anything about how men can be more giving and less selfish in the sack? Thus, the crux of my original argument, that your original thread title, “ARE ALL GUYS SELFISH BUGGERS DURING SEX”, was misleading in reference to what was actually contained in that drivel of an OP.

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> (GOT IT? THIS IS NOT SELFISH, NOT EGOCENTRIC AND SO ON.

Your ass, it isn’t.

I’ve taken your sorry-assed OP apart before, Sparky, and I don’t feel like dredging through the shit again. So, I’ll submit my original challenge to you. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU DO FOR THE WOMAN, MARK? Noticing what she does for you _does not make you unselfish by default, fuckwad!_ Just because you’ve nailed countless perfume-drenched, mall-haired truckstop waitresses/bowling alley floozies doesn’t fukcing make you the God of Selfless Sex, fuckstick. You’ve got to actually do something _gasp\*\*for her_!

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> "Big or puffy’ hair can hang around a woman’s face like an ethereal halo, shining, sparkling and accenting her looks tremendously. (The woman who takes extra time to do her hair before sex, in my book, is a real PLUS!) Ok. So what was offensive about that?

You mean besides the fact that you seem to promote the notion that the ideal sexual partner is Flo from _Alice_?

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> If your man doesn’t do that automatically in the sexual act, then you probably are screwing a stone.

No, they’re probably screwing a man who does all this stuff and _then something for his partner as well_, not a stone. Though undoubtedly, most would prefer either to you.

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> Now, you all jumped on the attack by stating that I said this was the ONLY way and accused me of being selfish by not considering the other aspects of the person,

NO, we jumped on you because you waltzed into the wrong forum (GQ), announced how fucking great a lay you are, and then proceeded to delineate your ideal sexual experience and proclaim it as the most unselfish, giving thing a woman on this planet could experience. And after all this time, I have yet to see you post _one goddamed thing_ that goes deeper than looking or sniffing at your victim/partner/big-haired ugly-bumping angel.

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> but did I not state that it was not the ONLY way

After no-one bought your Casanova routine, you sure did, champ! Bully for you!

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> Anyone who can glibly come up with such insults and slander without pause and has obviously had much practice with them is not what I would consider a nice person.

That stings. Really.

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> You must have a pix posted somewhere that one can determine if your size is as big as your mouth

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> I’m not alone in that opinion concerning ‘plumpers’ either,

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> you mouthy women

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> your little, hot, maniacal brains

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> If your weight did not turn me off towards you, the filthy, sarcastic mouth you actually eat with, would have

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> When you take so much obvious joy in ridiculing another, that indicates an insecure and potentially hostile personality.

Oh, now you’re just making it _too_ easy, sport.

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> Anyone who can glibly come up with such insults and slander without pause and has obviously had much practice with them is not what I would consider a nice person.

And anyone who takes this long to cook up a witty riposte (that means “answer to a thread”, Sparky) like this must’ve grown up either eating lead paint chips or living under power lines.

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> Please, by all means enjoy your misery.

You _are_ our misery, fuckface.

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> Any form of perceived defense of any of my posts by you will be met with hostility, suspicion and derivement.

Nope. We have it from good sources that she, unlike most others who defend you, is not some phantom handle cooked up by your Jovan-and-Aquanet soaked brain.

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> Mark  
> “Think of it as Evolution in action.”

Mark  
“Think of him as what happens when Evolution misses the entrance ramp.”

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“And he, he himself, the _Grinch_,  
carved the roast beast.”

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**Author:** ![MarkSerlin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@MarkSerlin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkSerlin)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/44 "1999-12-23T23:11:00Z")

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Nice Riposte FLYPSIDE. Too bad it didn’t prove anything aside from the obvious fact that you mentally masturbate, though I will acknowledge one, single point. The title to my post, was, upon reflection, misleading.

As to everything else in it, I would assume that a moderately intelligent person would have known that the discussion was only concerning a single aspect. In the Very, Very Original post in another forum, I stated that it was in response to discussions from women which I had heard on a talk program where they seem to feel that their male partners A: don’t actually SEE them, B: Don’t pay attention when they ‘fix’ themselves up for them, C: Don’t notice when they use expensive perfumes for them and, D: Seem mainly interested in what is going on between their legs. Period.

My post was to disavow that particular fallacy. Get it _ **\<font face=“Menuetto”\>SPARKY?** _\<font face=“Menuetto”\>Or is that concept a bit too much for the pea brain that rattles around in your empty skull?

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Mark  
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

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**Author:** ![MarkSerlin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@MarkSerlin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkSerlin)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 1999, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/45 "1999-12-23T23:18:00Z")

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Um. Screwed up that last part a bit.

OPALCAT:  
I would assume that you probably have to take lots of baths from your current size. Besides, most people I know don’t make a practice of slapping perfume on top of a dirty body.

Try LAVA the hand soap for MEN. That’ll help scrape the ol’ layers of grime off of you.

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Mark  
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 1999, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/46 "1999-12-24T00:07:00Z")

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MarkSerlin wrote:

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> Out of 100 average women in the United States above the age of 21, 95 will wear some form of perfume.
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> Out of 100 average men in the United States, over the age of 21, 88.4 will wear colonge.

You know, 87.4% of all statistics are made up.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 1999, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/47 "1999-12-24T01:48:00Z")

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Ok, so because I don’t use perfume, I need Lava soap to remove grime? Oh, and Lava soap isn’t for “men” you sexist pig.

When will you get over this weight hangup anyway? How freaking obsessed are YOU?

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Teeming Millions: [http://fathom.org/teemingmillions](http://fathom.org/teemingmillions)  
“Meat flaps, yellow!” - DrainBead, naked co-ed Twister chat  
O p a l C a t  
[www.opalcat.com](http://www.opalcat.com)

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**Author:** ![Lemmon2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lemmon2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemmon2000)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 1999, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/48 "1999-12-24T03:16:00Z")

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Hey Mark, do you ever just close your eyes and enjoy yourself? After reading your post I have this mental image of a guy with his eyes wide open, mouth hanging open in amazement that he was actually able to get a poofy haired woman in bed with him.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 1999, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/49 "1999-12-25T08:16:00Z")

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> I would assume that you probably have to take lots of baths from your current size. Besides, most people I know don’t make a practice of slapping perfume on top of a dirty body.

Mark,  
why don’t you pull over into the nervous breakdown lane and give it up already?? This is just sad.

“You’re fat and ugly! You stink! I’m rubber and you’re glue- whatever you say bounces off me and sticks on you!”

## Zette (who is neither fat nor stinky, but still couldn’t get laid by MarkS, due to her long straight hair. Sigh…life is so fucking cruel sometimes)

Love is like popsicles…you get too much you get too high.

Not enough and you’re gonna die…  
[Click here for some GOOD news for a change](http://www.binghamtonpress.com/binghamtonnews/local/Sanews5.html)[Zettecity](http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/zettecity/index.html)

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 1999, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/50 "1999-12-25T09:33:00Z")

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This whole thread is too bloody hilarious. Mark, you are not exactly a popular guy around here. And you seem to thrive on that. Scary…

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/51 "1999-12-29T19:03:00Z")

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Something is amis here, Mark…

You seem to think that someone will “stink” if they don’t wear perfume…  
When I say that body odor + perfume = nasty you say that most people don’t put perfume on a dirty body…

Well duh. But the body will GET dirty, with or without the perfume. Personally, I think you’re better off just being clean and using a good deoderant than stinking up with perfume.

…aslo, you seem to think that not wearing perfume makes one more “grimy” than those who do wear it…  
curious. You truly are a marvel of nature… so little intelligence, yet still able to type.

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Teeming Millions: [http://fathom.org/teemingmillions](http://fathom.org/teemingmillions)  
“Meat flaps, yellow!” - DrainBead, naked co-ed Twister chat  
O p a l C a t  
[www.opalcat.com](http://www.opalcat.com)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 1999, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-favor-for-mark-serlin/3480/52 "1999-12-29T20:26:00Z")

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> Mark, forget DrainBead’s post. I know an even better woman… --SanibelMan

Ok, I don’t get over to this forum much, but I know ol’ Marky’s always good for a laugh, so I checked out this thread and took a chance on the link Sanibel Man provided…

\<font size=5\> **Oh My GAWD!!!** \</font size=5\>

_ **THAT’S** _ Heather Lee?!

Holy Bubble-Headed Bleach-Blond Bimbo (and her Bleach-Blond Bimbo Pal), Batman!

I’m not fully up on how this Heather person became the reviled one that she is around here (do I understand correctly that she was dating someone from the MB?), but judging by her website (I could only stand to look at/read a few of the pages) she and her desperate “let’s fling our tits around a bit” life are somewhat pathetic. I mean… **EW.**

But hey, I guess if _she’s_ happy, what the hell do I care?

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**StoryTyler**  
“Not everybody does it, but everybody should.”  
[I Spy Ty.](http://sites.netscape.net/storytyler/homepage)

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