He’s a heavy equipment seller or leasor, I think.
Do not kid yourself that they will issue visas to those who can show viable ties to this country. Just a few months back I ran into a young man who worked for me at one time while going to university. He graduated from the UdeG and is now employed in their marine biology lab doing research. He has a modest home he purchased through IFONAVIT, etc etc… The interviewer denied him a visa because he said the University of Guadalajara didn’t exist as a bona fide employer!!! WTF He even had his pay vouchers with him.
You failed to mention the restrictions the US puts on land ownership by foreigners. The restricted zone here always seem to come up in these discussions but Americans should realize that in the US foreigners can be denied ownership also.
You also didn’t comment on the difference between you acquiring your work permit and everything your wife had to do to get her green card.
And…I am almost certain your Mexican employers provide you with an extensive benefits package mandated by law which includes free medical care for you and your wife and children if there are any.
I have a small construction company and also own a custom woodworking business. I also have a place at the beach and try to get there as often as possible.
I have been importing heavy industrial equipment for a number of years. I started doing this to equip my own business but soon got requests from other shops for machinery. I have a friend in Texas who buys used semi trucks and trailers there and sells them here. He gives me a very good deal on freight charges since he would otherwise send the rigs here empty. I buy machines at auction in the USA and import them to Mexico. Many shops and factories in the USA are closing because of Chinese imports and very good quality machinery can be purchased at very low prices. Plus there is no import duty on machinery made in the USA (NAFTA).
Unfortunately my last shipment was right at the time the economy collapsed and I have a semi-truck of machinery that I cannot sell.
But my main business is residential construction here in Guadalajara and also a custom millwork and woodwork shop that in normal times employs 10-12 workers. We will on occasion build custom doors for customers who export to the USA but most of our work is for the market here in Guadalajara.
You see I work very hard to keep people here in Mèxico!! But I have 2 ex-employees that are doing very well working legally in Canada in a factory that builds houses in sections and assembles on the building site. I went to the expense of training them but it please me they are well respected workers in Canada.
Back to the OP. Public Schools have to, per the SCOTUS, educate even “illegal” immigrants:
The constitutional guarantee of due process extends to protect aliens, including illegal aliens. (Plyler v. Doe (1982) 457 U.S. 202, 210, 102 S.Ct. 2382, 2391, 72 L.Ed.2d 786.)
From Wikipedia:
This does not work because they do not contribute back more than they take in social services. It would require the rest of society to pay more to support this, or quality/quantity of service to be reduced.
As long as we are providing public services from tax payer dollars, immigration needs to be restricted and enforced.
Take public education K-12, and inject a massive wave of new immigrant children into the system without the money to expand capacity. Quality of education would surely drop like a rock.
When searching for cites verifying your claim as it pertains to real property, I’ve found zero references. Please enlighten!
My wife’s paperwork was the exact same paperwork that a foreigner from Canada would have had to fill out if I’d wanted to marry a Canadian, and the process was identical. That’s how it is for foreigners, period; Mexico’s not being singled out.
For what it’s worth, it was time consuming and involved a lot of paperwork and running around in both countries to get through the process. It certainly wasn’t insurmountable, and we didn’t have need of an attorney for anything.
For my FM3, I showed up at the consulate in Detroit with a letter signed by my management, a printed application form, and about $100 in cash. I came back in a week and picked it up. There was nothing at all to it.
I’m employed by my US employer and my FM3 has the notation “no lucrativo.” I continue to collect my US salary in dollars and my US benefits. In addition to my back-home insurance, my employer has provided private medical insurance that allows my wife and I to use private hospitals here. I wouldn’t want to participate in IMSS – importa madre su salud is what my Mexican family says (including a medical doctor and two dentists. I suppose as private practitioners they could be biased, but my sister-in-law was an IMSS dentist before it disenheartened her and she went exclusively private).
Cite?
Why? Illegal immigrants pay taxes too.
Here in Chicago, they go so far as to let parents know, on the school registration and fee forms, that not only do you not have to provide proof of citizenship or legal immigrant status, you do NOT have to be legal to attend the school and your child will not be denied schooling because of illegal status. They do have to provide proof of residency within the school district, just like any other student family.
This is most definitely true for the public schools my son has attended, and my daughter just registered for kindergarten at. Her private, religiously based preschool, to the best of my recollection, didn’t get so specific about illegals’ right to an education, but they simply didn’t ask.
Which leads me to wonder…do private schools have the right to turn away illegal immigrants or legal citizens with illegal parents?
The Congress of the United States - Congressional Budget Office. 12-2007.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-Immigration.pdf
It’s math. You have givers who don’t use as much $$$ as they are putting in. And you have takers who use more $$$ worth of services than they put in. When you increase the amount of takers, something has to give when there isn’t more $$$ being added.
A lot is also covered starting on page 15, section “Spending by State and Local Governments” for dollar figures in individual areas of education, law enforcement, and health care.
Yes, it’s true. Poorer people (and Illegals are rarely rich) pay less in than they get out. However, unless you are fairly wealthy that’s true of everyone. Should we have restrictions on the services the born in USA poor get?
For starters:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/29/news/29iht-radviser_ed3__0.html
And here is an even better cite:
http://answers.uslegal.com/questions.php?q=3364
“The following states, in addition to those noted below, have some sort of restriction on aliens owning land: California, Illinois, Kansas, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, and North Carolina.”
Please open the link and see many more states with restrictions.
First one 404’s, but the second one is kind of interesting. Nothing on the federal level, though, so this is kind of like Arizona making its own laws again.
I don’t see Michigan on that list, so if you’re ever interested in property there, let me know. I know some beautiful areas!
It doesn’t matter what level though, does it? Restrictions are restrictions. I don’t know if you can say it is like the Arizona law. The states with restrictions must have some reason. We got tired of foreign invasions.
It is too cold in Michigan. I’ll spend my time on the beach in Jalisco instead!
Nearly all those restrictions are on NON-Resident aliens owning land. Mexico restricts even resident aliens from owning land. Mexico also restricts Non-resident aliens from owning land anywhere in Mexico. In fact, most nations do.
But what if I told you there was a place where foreigners (persons who are not nationals by birth or naturalization) can be deported whenever the nation’s chief executive deems their presence “inconvenient”; where federal authorities are empowered to use local police to assist in enforcing immigration laws; where foreigners have no right to due process of law or to “in any way become involved in the political affairs of the country”?
And what if I told you that place is Mexico?
According to the 2009 treatise “Mexican Law for the American Lawyer,” it is. Furthermore, Amnesty International reports, “The U.N. special rapporteur on the human rights of migrants visited Mexico in March [2009] and expressed grave concern at the treatment of Central American migrants.”
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/mexico/report-2009
Face it, Mexico is harsher on it’s illegal aliens than the USA is. Quite a bit.
And, Mexico is still the largest source of legal immigrant to the USA:
- In terms of the annual inflow of legal immigrants, about one in seven are Mexican. This share is substantially larger than the legal flow from any other country.
Wikihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
"In 2006, a total of 1,266,264 immigrants became legal permanent residents of the United States, up from 601,516 in 1987, 849,807 in 2000, and 1,122,373 in 2005.[61] The top twelve migrant-sending countries in 2006, by country of birth, were Mexico (173,753), People’s Republic of China (87,345), Philippines (74,607), India (61,369), Cuba (45,614), Colombia (43,151), Dominican Republic (38,069), El Salvador (31,783), Vietnam (30,695), Jamaica (24,976), South Korea (24,386), Guatemala (24,146), Other countries - 606,370.[62]
Roughly, about 9 Mexicans migrate legally to the USA for every American who migrates legally to Mexico.
México does NOT restrict non-resident aliens from owning land outside of the restricted zone. There are literally thousands of foreign home owners living in the Lake Chapala area that visit seasonally. I am at this moment building a beach house owned by 2 couples from Sacramento that are not residents here. It is held in a fideicomiso since it is in a restricted zone. I am also remodeling a condo for a Canadian who came here on a tourist permit and bought his property.
And foreigners do have a right to due process. Go ahead and argue if you’d like. My daughter is a practicing attorney. She knows what she is talking about.
I think that that is his point isn’t that foreigners aren’t entitled to due process, but that it’s generally regarded that no one (including most Mexicans) don’t get what they’re entitled too from the Mexican police and justice system.
I for one feel lucky; I’ve never paid a mordida and have received nothing but courtesy from Mexican police, except for one time (interestingly) in Guadalajara where a city cop gave me a seat belt ticket because, according to him, he’d already pulled me over for something else which he was wrong about, and so had to give me a ticket for something. (It was a seat belt ticket, because he said they were never followed up on and that I could just throw it away.) Still, he was nice, and didn’t demand a bribe.
However lucky I am, even the Mexican government runs its own anti-corruption awareness campaigns. You certainly can’t argue that corruption is compatible with due process and/or justice.
If I can get used to the 40+ degree temperatures in the Sonoran desert, you can get used to the 30 degree temperatures in Michigan’s summer!
Of course you will get no argument from me on the level of corruption here. But Americans are quick to point fingers at others while ignoring what goes on in their own country. The US has a great deal of corruption. The difference is that your government legalized and sanitized it in the minds of Americans through legislation. It even has names…“special interests groups” and “political action committees” that control your country. Ours is obvious, we see it daily on the street level. Yours just goes on behind closed doors.
They do not own the property. The fideicomiso owns the property.
Well, your daughter is not a citable source. I gave you two. Here’s another:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632
Now in the USA, there’s a hearing before deportation, in Mexico you have no rights to said hearing.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-05-25-mexico-migrants_N.htm?csp=34news
"*And Mexico has a law that is no different from Arizona’s that empowers local police to check the immigration documents of people suspected of not being in the country legally.
“There (in the United States), they’ll deport you,” Hector Vázquez, an illegal immigrant from Honduras, said as he rested in a makeshift camp with other migrants under a highway bridge in Tultitlán. “In Mexico they’ll probably let you go, but they’ll beat you up and steal everything you’ve got first.”…Yet Mexico’s Arizona-style law requires local police to check IDs. And Mexican police freely engage in racial profiling and routinely harass Central American migrants, say immigration activists.
“The Mexican government should probably clean up its own house before looking at someone else’s,” said Melissa Vertíz, spokeswoman for the Fray Matías de Córdova Human Rights Center in Tapachula, Mexico.
In one six-month period from September 2008 through February 2009, at least 9,758 migrants were kidnapped and held for ransom in Mexico — 91 of them with the direct participation of Mexican police, a report by the National Human Rights Commission said. Other migrants are routinely stopped and shaken down for bribes, it said.
A separate survey conducted during one month in 2008 at 10 migrant shelters showed Mexican authorities were behind migrant attacks in 35 of 240 cases, or 15%."
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In your first link you cite a magazine article. Do you always believe everything you read? Try using something legitimate such as the law itself. Please show a cite for the claim in one of your quotes that foreigners are denied due process while you are at it. You know, cite the law.
The condo I am remodeling is in Villa Corona, Jalisco about 20 minutes from Guadalajara and the Canadian has a clear title to it, there is no fideicomiso involved. So much for your cite that non-resident aliens cannot own property anywhere in the country.
I gave a cite. So, now if you want to refute my cite, you have to come up with a better cite. Now, they weren’t saying foreigners never got due process in Mexico, like I said- in the USA if they claim you’re an Illegal and want to deport you, you can get a hearing. Do Guatamalan Illegal aliens get a hearing in Mexico? Got cite?