# A Fictional Character Portrayed by a Fictional Character

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**Created:** [November 5, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295 "2007-11-05T15:25:11Z")\
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I just saw a production of “I Hate Hamlet” where the main character is playing guess who.

In the movie of **Tristram Shandy** the main characters play themselves making a movie of Tristram Shandy.Which is appropriate, since the book was about writing the book.

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There’s also _Galaxy Quest_, where the main cast members play actors who portray the fictional crew of a starship.

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Snoopy played a whole bunch of fictional characters–the World War 1 Flying Ace, Joe Cool, etc. Does he count?

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/24 "2007-11-05T19:28:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Malvert P. Redd]  
How about Bob Zmuda pretending to be Andy Kaufman pretending to be Tony Clifton?  
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Or Paul Giamatti playing Bob Zmuda pretending to be Andy Kaufman pretending to be Tony Clifton?

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/25 "2007-11-05T20:36:51Z")

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Daffy Duck plays Duck Dodgers, in the immortal classic “Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2 Century.”

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/26 "2007-11-05T20:46:16Z")

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If I’m reading the OP correctly, Will Smith role plays a character who’s really Paul, but pretends for most of the film to the be the son of Sidney Potier.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/27 "2007-11-05T20:54:00Z")

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**Dead Poets’ Society** features one of its characters starring in a production of **A Midsummer Night’s Dream**.

In **The Sixth Sense** , the character Cole plays a fictionalized King Arthur in a school play.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/28 "2007-11-05T20:56:50Z")

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Charlton Heston portrays the lead actor portraying the king in the play within the play in Branagh’s _Hamlet_. (There are other actors playing actors playing roles too of course, but not as famous.)

Emma Thompson and Laurie Metcalf both played the fictional character of Frasier’s ex-wife Ann who makes her living playing Nanny G, a children’s singer. One of the greatest episodes of _Frasier_ featured Derek Jacoby as fictional Jackson Hedley, an appallingly bad Shakespearean actor who portrays several Shakespearean characters in a one man show.

Mark Indelicato plays fictional Justin on _Ugly Betty_ who portrayed fictional Tony in a school production of _West Side Story_.

Fictional director Lionel DeBris portrays a fictionalized Hitler in _The Producers_. (Hitler was a real person of course, but probably not quite as good a dancer.)

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/29 "2007-11-05T21:12:47Z")

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> That does bring up the question of a three deep.

I once played such a role in a high school play. The character was listed as Father Flannerty (at least, I think that was the last name), but as the play developed, the kind-hearted priest was revealed to be a cover identity for a mobster named “Bugsy”. And as it further developed, “Bugsy” wasn’t a mobster after all, but the sherrif’s deputy, engaged in an elaborate scheme to scare a confession out of a murderer.

There are also a few examples of a three-deep (four layers total, including the actor) in _Man of La Mancha_: Actor -\> Cervantes -\> Alonzo Quihano -\> Don Quixote, plus Dulcinea, the King, and the Knight of the Mirrors, who also existed on those same levels.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/30 "2007-11-05T21:13:09Z")

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
If I’m reading the OP correctly, Will Smith role plays a character who’s really Paul, but pretends for most of the film to the be the son of Sidney Potier.  
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Besides the fact that I messed up the typing on this post, I meant to add that Sidney Poitier doesn’t have a son in real life – he has six daughthers, which is why impersonating his son would be playing a fictional character.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fictional-character-portrayed-by-a-fictional-character/425295/31 "2007-11-05T21:49:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
In the movie _Tootsie_, Dustin Hoffman, a real person, played a man called Michael Dorsey who was pretending to be a woman called Dorothy Michaels in order to get a part playing a character named Sally Armitage in a soap opera.  
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Nitpick: Dorothy Michaels played Miss Emily Kimberly, the new hospital administrator (on _Southwest General_).

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
Jerry Seinfeld played the fictional Jerry Seinfeld on the sitcom “Seinfeld”. That fictional Jerry Seinfeld played a fictional Jerry Seinfeld on the short-lived sitcom “Jerry”.  
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And the actors portraying George, Kramer and Elaine on “Jerry” were actors portraying fictional characters portraying fictional characters.

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[QUOTE=Scarlett67]  
Nitpick: Dorothy Michaels played Miss Emily Kimberly, the new hospital administrator (on _Southwest General_).  
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Nit-nitpick: actually, she played Edward Kimberly, the long-lost brother of Emily, as the final shocking reveal… eh… revealed.

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Homer was Poochy.

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Several actors have played Superman, who played Clark Kent. In _Hollywoodland_, Ben Affleck plays George Reeves, who plays Superman, who plays Clark Kent.

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[Victor Victoria](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084865/)

Or the entire TV Series “[The Pretender](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115320/)”

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[QUOTE=AskNott]  
Several actors have played Superman, who played Clark Kent. In _Hollywoodland_, Ben Affleck plays George Reeves, who plays Superman, who plays Clark Kent.  
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Well, if you are going to bring secret identities into the equation, we’ll be here all night:

Anyone who has played Supergirl/Kara/Linda Lee  
Anyone who has played Superman/Clark Kent/Kal-El  
Anyone who has played Batman/Bruce Wayne  
Anyone who has played Spiderman/Peter Parker

et al, etc, ad naseum

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[QUOTE=5-4-Fighting]  
Besides the fact that I messed up the typing on this post, I meant to add that Sidney Poitier doesn’t have a son in real life – he has six daughthers, which is why impersonating his son would be playing a fictional character.  
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It might also help if I mention the movie was _Six Degrees of Separation_. :smack:

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[QUOTE=kunilou]  
At one point in WKRP in Cincinatti, the fictional Johnny Fever hosted a TV dance show using another persona.  
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Rip Tide, _Gotta Dance_

And just to confuse it, don’t forget that Dr. Johnny Fever was merely a persona played by John Caravella, played by Howard Hesseman.

Which I guess makes this as good a place as any to bring up Tim Reid playing Gordon Sims playing Venus Flytrap.

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Don’t know if this counts for 3 deep or not, but in the Phantom of the Opera, the Phantom pretends to be an actor he just killed (Piangi?) who was playing the role of Don Juan.

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