# A first for me: Why was Claude Remains suspended? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 7, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022 "2010-02-07T12:20:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/1 "2010-02-07T12:20:58Z")
I’ve never, EVER started a serious “Why was so-and-so banned/suspended” thread in the 10 years I’ve been here and I’ve made fun of people who regularly started them so this is new for me. But this seems totally insane: Remains has like 500 posts since 2004 and _one time_ in 6 years he posts about a sick fantasy he’s had and BANG! he’s insta-banned so quick my head spun. Which would be fine if there was even a hint of consistency…but Cesario has posted his disgusting pervert fantasies all over the damned board and per Marley, he may not have even been formally warned! What the hell is the problem here? ETA: [Link–start at post 92](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551058) ETA2: Note, I couldn’t care less if Claude is suspended, banned or reinstated–I don’t think I’ve ever talked to him. But why aren’t the same standards not being applied to Cesario? ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/2 "2010-02-07T12:30:45Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I’ve never, EVER started a serious “Why was so-and-so banned/suspended” thread in the 10 years I’ve been here and I’ve made fun of people who regularly started them so this is new for me. > > But this seems totally insane: Remains has like 500 posts since 2004 and _one time_ in 6 years he posts about a sick fantasy he’s had and BANG! he’s insta-banned so quick my head spun. > > Which would be fine if there was even a hint of consistency…but Cesario has posted his disgusting pervert fantasies all over the damned board and per Marley, he may not have even been formally warned! > > What the hell is the problem here? > ETA: [Link–start at post 92](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551058) > ETA2: Note, I couldn’t care less if Claude is suspended, banned or reinstated–I don’t think I’ve ever talked to him. But why aren’t the same standards not being applied to Cesario? Yea I agree with you. A stalwart member like Claude should be allowed a little latitude. I mean, a few posts in 500 about wanting to have sex with a 5 year old is hardly a crime, right? It’s not like he says it every day. :smack:⭕dubious::(:eek:😕 ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/3 "2010-02-07T12:37:16Z")
Dude–that’s not what I’m asking, hence the “Which would be fine if there was any consistency” line. I’m fine with him being banned/suspended/whatever. I want to know why Cesario hasn’t been banned under _the same rule_…especially since he does it a LOT more often. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/4 "2010-02-07T13:15:59Z")
According to **Xash** , [he’s only been suspended](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087644&postcount=152). ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/5 "2010-02-07T13:24:16Z")
I wanted to ask the same thing. From what I know about the situation (which could well fail to be everything…) it seems like **Claude Remains** and **Cesario** should either both be banned or both be… not… banned. \<—Better English would be better. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/6 "2010-02-07T13:49:42Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > According to **Xash** , [he’s only been suspended](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087644&postcount=152). “Only” suspended is more than _Cesario_, whose apparent sole reason to post here is to espouse his fundamental right to shag babies, has ever gotten. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/7 "2010-02-07T14:11:26Z")
I agree with all these posts. But I don’t see “Why was Claude Remains suspended” and “Why hasn’t Cesario been banned?” as two sides of the same coin. [Semi] Good move on Claude. (it should have been a sudden death, get the hell out of here banning) I would have been happier with an OP of “Ok Claude is gone. (kinda…) So why is Cesario still here?” ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/8 "2010-02-07T16:42:43Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > “Only” suspended is more than _Cesario_, whose apparent sole reason to post here is to espouse his fundamental right to shag babies, has ever gotten. _Consenting_ babies, **MOL** , _consenting_ babies. Context! ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/9 "2010-02-07T19:25:08Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > why aren’t the same standards not being applied to Cesario? Can we get a mod answer on this? What rule did Claude Remains trip over that Cesario hasn’t? Very bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/10 "2010-02-07T19:31:30Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > _Consenting_ babies, **MOL** , _consenting_ babies. Context! I’m gonna have to go '\*\*swas \*\*style on you and say LOL. Oh yes, I forgot about those emotionally and sexually mature babies who want to be fucked by adults. When they say “Waah!” what they really mean is “Please have sex with me, you creepy motherfucker.” Ugh, I don’t even know why I’ve allowed myself to give in to these stupid Cesario threads. I’ve been ignoring him all this time. I think the gratuitous injected of his perversions starting grating on me, and the flirting thread made me declare, “Enough! Keep your sick shit to yourself!” ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/11 "2010-02-07T19:36:35Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > _Consenting_ babies, **MOL** , _consenting_ babies. Context! Thank you. It’s an important distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/12 "2010-02-07T20:33:44Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > Thank you. It’s an important distinction. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/13 "2010-02-07T20:39:02Z")
Still waiting for an answer, Mods–since I posted this, there have been two mod-notes to other posters that I’m aware of, a dozen posts by Marley, maybe 6 by Czarcasm, one or two by Wombat…and not one single post by a mod here in this thread. It’s not that tough of a question: If Claude was suspended within hours of posting that he once fantasied about raping a 5 year old, why is Cesario still prancing around after 4 or 5 “mod notes” and ~300 posts where he’s actively advocating raping infants? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/14 "2010-02-07T20:41:04Z")
Because, as far as I can tell, **Claude** was uncouth about it. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/15 "2010-02-07T20:42:58Z")
This is shameful. Claude posted nothing worse than what Cesario posts. The only difference is that Cesario has posted his obvious trolling idiocy across many more forums, over a much longer period of time. But Claude is suspended and Cesario continues to post freely. And the moderators here seem to think that if t hey just ignore this thread, no one will notice? Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/16 "2010-02-07T20:48:19Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > Thank you. It’s an important distinction. SDMB Administrators. When will you act? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/17 "2010-02-07T21:20:49Z")
My WAG guess is that Claude Remains made the error of espousing an illegal act, while Cesario has always danced up to that line and not over it. It is the finest of hair-splitting legalistic-type bullshit, and in a better world, they’d both be done here before today is over. Intolerance of some things that are intolerable is fine by me (not many, but some - this is one of them). ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/18 "2010-02-07T21:35:28Z")
Eh, I doubt the mods were that careful. I think they suspended him on more of a whim. If pressed, they may make some sort of argument like that you propose but I’m sure it will be created post hoc. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/19 "2010-02-07T22:46:36Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > _Consenting_ babies, **MOL** , _consenting_ babies. Context! Consent or no, the baby was asking for it dressing all provocatively like that. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/20 "2010-02-07T22:48:00Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Consent or no, the baby was asking for it dressing all provocatively like that. Not funny. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022.md?page=2)