# A first for me: Why was Claude Remains suspended? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 7, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022 "2010-02-07T12:20:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/21 "2010-02-07T22:55:52Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > My WAG guess is that Claude Remains made the error of espousing an illegal act, while Cesario has always danced up to that line and not over it. It is the finest of hair-splitting legalistic-type bullshit, and in a better world, they’d both be done here before today is over. Intolerance of some things that are intolerable is fine by me (not many, but some - this is one of them). How so? Claude was adamant that they were thoughts and nothing more, and that the point was acting on those thoughts drew a distinction. Cesario’s apologists also have this position. Yet Claude was suspended pending further review and Cesario is posting in this thread. It will be interesting to see how the admin staff spins this one. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/22 "2010-02-07T23:37:28Z")
I also don’t see anything that was suspension worthy. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/23 "2010-02-07T23:38:31Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Eh, I doubt the mods were that careful. I think they suspended him on more of a whim. If pressed, they may make some sort of argument like that you propose but I’m sure it will be created post hoc. Which is the reason I’ve stopped offering plausible explanations. Except for a few mods who seem to respond as soon as they get the chance, I always get a feeling of _post hoc_ reasoning from the mods. Because, chances are, I can come up with a plausible reason to do practically anything. Especially since the requirement is just that you thought it was a good idea at the time, and can fall to scrutiny later. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/24 "2010-02-08T00:06:42Z")
12 hours later, no mod response but there have been at least three or four official warnings and several mod notes. And mods are still posting. So…waiting… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/25 "2010-02-08T00:10:43Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > 12 hours later, no mod response but there have been at least three or four official warnings and several mod notes. And mods are still posting. > > So…waiting… And I have a very plausible explanation for that, too. It’s not hard. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/26 "2010-02-08T00:14:30Z")
See, there’s this double secret word out there. It changes hourly. And if you say the double secret word, then poof, you are insta-suspended. It happens that Claude Remains said the double secret word, whereas Cesario did not. Remember folks, don’t say the double secret word. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/27 "2010-02-08T00:19:41Z")
I’d guess that there’s currently modly debate about this, and they don’t want to jump the gun by coming in and proclaiming what’s going to happen unilaterally. Might be nice for a mod to indicate that there’s current discussion about this issue, though. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/28 "2010-02-08T00:30:25Z")
Since what to do about a problem named Cesario is Ed’s decision, I wouldn’t expect an immedate answer, simply because it is a weekend. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/29 "2010-02-08T09:58:25Z")
The suspension of **Claude Remains** was a unilateral decision on my part. No other mod has responded to this thread because they were not party to my action. I have been away all day, and therefore haven’t had the opportunity to respond to this thread earlier. My apologies for the delay in response. For further clarification, please see Ed’s ruling in the other thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347) - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/30 "2010-02-08T14:17:02Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > Not funny. To me it has actually reached that point where all one can do is laugh at it because its (meaning the entire situation, Cesario, Claude, the Mods, Zotti, indecision, decision, etc) become so surreal and bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/31 "2010-02-08T14:30:08Z")
> [@xash](#): > > The suspension of **Claude Remains** was a unilateral decision on my part. No other mod has responded to this thread because they were not party to my action. I have been away all day, and therefore haven’t had the opportunity to respond to this thread earlier. My apologies for the delay in response. > > For further clarification, please see Ed’s ruling in the other thread: > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347) > > - **xash** > Administrator The fact that Claude Remains’ suspension can be unilateral but somehow Cesario is the Administration’s special pet goes beyond hypocritical straight to being thoroughly repulsive. At this point I can only assume that Cesario is, in fact Ed Zotti. Enjoy your sick fuck message board. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/32 "2010-02-08T14:45:37Z")
> [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](#): > > The fact that Claude Remains’ suspension can be unilateral but somehow Cesario is the Administration’s special pet goes beyond hypocritical straight to being thoroughly repulsive. I suspended **Claude Remains** so that his post could be taken up for review by the mods and admins. I specifically mentioned that the suspension was pending further review. Suspensions and bannings cannot be made unilaterally - except those made to allow time for review - under our current mod guidelines. On review, the suspension has been lifted, as Ed mentions in his post. Further, a new rule has been created to prevent either of these situations occuring again. Specifically: > [@](#): > > We’re now making this rule explicit. The board is not meant to be a forum for the gratuitous expression of criminal fantasies, such as the one that led to the suspension of Claude Remains. Such posts may result in revocation of your posting privileges. We’ll be the judge of what’s gratuitous. - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/33 "2010-02-11T02:21:43Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > Yea I agree with you. > > A stalwart member like Claude should be allowed a little latitude. I mean, a few posts in 500 about wanting to have sex with a 5 year old is hardly a crime, right? > > It’s not like he says it every day. :smack:⭕dubious::(:eek:😕 Yeah, O.K. take yer stalwart comment and lay it as a template over yourself, Does it mach up? And furthurmore I have not ever mentioned wanting to have sex with a 5 year old girl “a few posts in 500” as you have stated. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/34 "2010-02-11T03:29:01Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > Yeah, O.K. take yer stalwart comment and lay it as a template over yourself, Does it mach up? And furthurmore I have not ever mentioned wanting to have sex with a 5 year old girl “a few posts in 500” as you have stated. > > Thank you. My bad. [You actually said:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087271&postcount=92)\*“I’ve seen girls( in my fanasies) as young as 5 that I would love to pump full of jizz. That said let me request that anyone else (you are out there) fess up to the truth and stop hiding the horny fuck that you are deep inside. This smackes of people hiding behind the Bible in order to avoid being out there with all the true and real feelings you have locked away. Be a human, It’s O.K. man!” \* Oh, [and:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087368&postcount=99)_"Point is that I am just a Human and that yes I do have sexual thoughts that are out there , but I would not ever bring this to fruition. "_ Oh, and [this:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087386&postcount=103)_“If everones sexual thoughts were brought to light , this entire board would have a comlpete meltdown. I was not trying to shock or troll or whatever, I felt like speaking my mind.”_ That was you, wasn’t it? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/35 "2010-02-11T04:13:25Z")
The point is on the top of your head, is that why you use a ball cap to cover it? What exactly are you trying to say? ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/36 "2010-02-11T04:33:43Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > The point is on the top of your head, is that why you use a ball cap to cover it? > What exactly are you trying to say? The Wayback Machine is not your friend. You may want to run for Governor one day. Stop while you’re behind, k? ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/37 "2010-02-11T04:36:34Z")
As you typed this wre you looking at your monitor or into a mirror? ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/38 "2010-02-11T04:47:37Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > As you typed this wre you looking at your monitor or into a mirror? Review post #34 and get back to me. I can’t even your own words (hyperlinked for convenience) in my comment. They stand on their own. Crossing paths with you and Cesario has me wanting to shower with bleach and a wire brush. I’m really done talking with you. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022/39 "2010-02-11T04:47:55Z")
Okay, you two, go get a room or something, you can’t be fighting in here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-first-for-me-why-was-claude-remains-suspended/528022.md?page=1)