# A four thousand dollar trip to Europe for a fourteen year old? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939 "2015-03-25T14:11:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/181 "2015-03-27T16:15:26Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It will, however, get you a six dollar burger at Carl’s Jr. Is Carl’s Jr. in Hawaii? ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/182 "2015-03-27T16:19:20Z")
I heard Carl’s Sr. retired there. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/183 "2015-03-27T16:32:46Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I’m going to Hawaii at the end of November, and we’ll be visiting … the Polynesian Culture Center (culture). > > … Avoid poi. I have a theory about where they get it, but I won’t go into it here. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/184 "2015-03-27T18:44:39Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > As I said in the ATMB thread, the only reason this trip exists _at all_ is because the OP’s sick and tired of her precious snowflake’s incessant complaints about how her older brother got to visit Europe, so why caaaan’t she visit Europe toooo? Which is her prerogative, of course – but hell if anyone else should feel obligated to pay for it. I’ve got enough helicopters hovering over my neighborhood, thank you very much. I’m sure you’re right about that. The GoFundMe page was created about 3 months ago without much of a response. I’m thinking there may be a big payment due soon and that is what prompted the SDMB thread. So I guess Mistee may have to take out a second mortgage or something. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/185 "2015-03-27T19:50:23Z")
I just can’t imagine having signed my kid up for a trip I wasn’t sure I could pay for. My son’s trip is this coming fall, during fall break of his senior year. The class started planning the trip at the beginning of their sophomore year. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/186 "2015-03-27T19:54:29Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > I just can’t imagine having signed my kid up for a trip I wasn’t sure I could pay for. I would sign up and, if I didn’t have the immediate resources, I’d go talk to the nice lady at the bank. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/187 "2015-03-27T19:58:34Z")
Maybe she was really confident of finding enough dupes. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/188 "2015-03-27T20:00:35Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Especially as you are not using the 2-for-1 Groupon I just know there’s a pun/joke here using “Gropeon” I always have these kernels of humor, but I just can’t ever close the deal… ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/189 "2015-03-27T20:09:13Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I would sign up and, if I didn’t have the immediate resources, I’d go talk to the nice lady at the bank. There are nice ladies working at _banks_! Jeez, I’ll have to dress a little better the next time I go in. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/190 "2015-03-27T20:48:28Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Is Carl’s Jr. in Hawaii? Yes, it is. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/191 "2015-03-27T21:02:53Z")
> [@Geek\_Mecha](#): > > Yes, it is. Yes! ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/192 "2015-03-27T21:56:12Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Maybe she was really confident of finding enough dupes. If you look at the GoFundMe page, a few people have actually donated (including someone who’s making a monthly donation), though I imagine they’re probably relatives or family friends. And not a whole lot of money has been raised anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/193 "2015-03-27T22:03:56Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > If you look at the GoFundMe page, a few people have actually donated (including someone who’s making a monthly donation), though I imagine they’re probably relatives or family friends. And not a whole lot of money has been raised anyway. That’s not the only possible source. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/194 "2015-03-27T22:30:07Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’m sure you’re right about that. The GoFundMe page was created about 3 months ago without much of a response. I’m thinking there may be a big payment due soon and that is what prompted the SDMB thread. So I guess Mistee may have to take out a second mortgage or something. Or go beg on a message board she rarely visits. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/195 "2015-03-27T23:26:46Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Is Carl’s Jr. in Hawaii? > [@Geek\_Mecha](#): > > Yes, it is. > [@PunditLisa](#): > > Yes! And just to mention, Carl’s Jr. is here in Bangkok too. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/196 "2015-03-28T05:40:44Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > _Emily will get to view a leathermaking demonstration !!!_ This amused me greatly. No, she won’t. She’ll maybe get to view a leather\*working \*demonstration (bags, probably), but they’re not letting a gaggle of 14 yo’s near hexavalent chrome… ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/197 "2015-03-28T14:21:30Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I’d be more willing to donate to a vacation for an adult version of Emily who’s never had anything nice before but works hard anyway. Ooh! Pick me! Pick me! 47 years old, only trip outside the U.S. was to Canada when I was 5. Never really went anywhere within the U.S. unless it was for work, except for one Spring Break trip to Florida my senior year of high school (paid for that myself. My parents would have laughed in my face if I’d asked them to fund it, which makes sense. After all, they weren’t taking me on vacations because _they_ couldn’t go on vacations). I have conversations with my kids frequently about how we can’t always afford what their friends’ families can. It makes me feel like crap sometimes, but it’s life. There’s always going to be someone with something nicer. Anyway, **monstro** , you’re in for a donation, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/198 "2015-03-28T14:41:52Z")
Misstee, wait 3 years, take your daughter to the Navy recruiter and sit her down. Ask her if she still has this ambition to see Europe for free. If she answers yes, sign her up. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/199 "2015-03-28T15:25:30Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > This amused me greatly. No, she won’t. She’ll maybe get to view a leather\*working \*demonstration (bags, probably), but they’re not letting a gaggle of 14 yo’s near hexavalent chrome… Maybe they will get to see the part where they strip the skin off the cow. I hear in the old days the best leather was made when the cow was still alive at the time. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/200 "2015-03-28T17:27:46Z")
> [@sandra\_nz](#): > > That must be one of the more insane things I have read on the Dope, and I’ve read some weird shit here. A $4,000 holiday for a 14 year old? Fucking hell. I’m fairly certain that I haven’t ever paid $4000 for a holiday for _myself_, mostly because any “extra” money goes for things like dental work. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939.md?page=11)