# A four thousand dollar trip to Europe for a fourteen year old?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939 "2015-03-25T14:11:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/121 "2015-03-26T03:00:47Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Could I start a thread to fund my heroin habit? I don’t have one yet, but I’ve always wanted one. This could be my chance.
> 
> Nitpick: The country is spelled Colombia. No U.

That’s true. Good catch. Still think she means the country, misspelling and all.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/122 "2015-03-26T03:22:35Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> On the one hand: yeah, obviously the begging thread is even more ridiculous than the typical internet panhandling. On the other hand: to all the people in this thread who are proud of never having left the US? The world’s a pretty cool place. Just sayin’.

Who the hell here said that?

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/123 "2015-03-26T03:23:19Z")

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Ugh! Guess I missed my chance to get you all to pay for my son’s Europe trip this coming fall break, during his senior year. He’s ever bit as good a kid as the one in the other post. He’s saved his money (pet sitting jobs, mowing lawns, etc) and we and other family members have chipped in for birthday, Christmas and graduation presents.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/124 "2015-03-26T03:24:42Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> You know those vaccines cause Autism right?

You are going straight to hell for saying that specific phrase to that specific poster.

And I’ll be joining you because I laughed.

😉

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/125 "2015-03-26T03:27:24Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> The last kid who walked up to my house and asked me to fund her soccer trip to Hawaii got nothin’ either.
> 
> I couldn’t believe it. Mow my lawn, rake my leaves, wash my dog, wash my car, or something. SELL THE CHOCOLATE. Whatever. Give me something for it.
> 
> The entitled young cheerleader then sneered at me, when I refused her, guessing that I was living off of social security or something otherwise of course I would love to give her money.
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> At least on the internet when you don’t give, you don’t get sneered at.

Close. You just don’t see the sneer.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/126 "2015-03-26T03:28:08Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’m with those who won’t be donating and who think it’s probably a rather goofy request, but who aren’t worked up about it.
> 
> The rabbit one pissed me off because it was fucking dishonest. This one doesn’t strike me as dishonest at all.

Oh, I agree. She was completely honest about her moochery. But it was still moochery, which leaves a bad taste in some people’s mouths.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/127 "2015-03-26T03:41:07Z")

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I think I’ll start a new thread in ATMB:

**Why does the SDMB condone cyber mooching**?

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/128 "2015-03-26T03:56:33Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> I think I’ll start a new thread in ATMB:
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> **Why does the SDMB condone cyber mooching**?

Exactly. Personally, I would just have ignored her thread until it went away, but maybe its mere existence sets a bad precedent. I don’t know, I’m just submitting the possibility for discussion.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/129 "2015-03-26T04:02:16Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I’ve always wanted to be an international assassin, but sniper rifles, explosives and untraceable poisons are expensive. Help me to fulfill my dream!

Well, I’m always recruiting new talent. I shall PM you the details.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/130 "2015-03-26T04:03:33Z")

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Can someone post a link to the rabbit/air conditioning thread?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/131 "2015-03-26T04:04:22Z")

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I saw a documentary once about high school students raising money for a trip. [What was it called?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Does_Dallas) I forget.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/132 "2015-03-26T04:29:06Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> Can someone post a link to the rabbit/air conditioning thread?

Original [cash grab](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651754) thread.

Subsequent [Pit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651896) thread.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/133 "2015-03-26T05:58:31Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> Exactly. Personally, I would just have ignored her thread until it went away, but maybe its mere existence sets a bad precedent. I don’t know, I’m just submitting the possibility for discussion.

I think one of the problems many people have with it is that as has been pointed out, it did go away with attracting a single post, but with a spectacular lack of shame she bumped it back up again.

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/134 "2015-03-26T06:07:18Z")

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This thread should have been zapped as quickly as possible. I’d hate to think I’m going to scroll through new posts and have to see 3-4 of these within a few days.

I have seen the mods make a few prudent exceptions. That’s fine but the thread under discussion would never be one of them. No-brainer.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/135 "2015-03-26T07:33:33Z")

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Shit I’ve never been to Europe either and I’m approaching 40. Fling me a few bucks eh dopers?

Seriously though if you want you kid to do this sort of thing as a parent then you help them find a job and/or pony up yourself.

Personally I think all begging threads should be locked down on sight. And if that’s not the policy we should all not post in them so they sink without a trace. Actually I’m tempted to spam a bunch of other MPSIMS threads just to push it down the list.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/136 "2015-03-26T08:58:55Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> That’s all fine, but I don’t know what valuable experience they’ll get from the London part of the itinerary.
> 
> The Strand, Trafalgar Square, Leicester Square, Convent [sic] Garden, Piccadilly Circus. Really?
> 
> That’s basically a road, three fucking roundabouts and a glorified shopping precinct with an opera house on one side.
> 
> It’s like they planned it using the UK Monopoly board and a cheesy postcard someone sent them.

I agree with this - it’s not like most of the museums aren’t [free](http://www.timeout.com/london/museums/free-museums-in-london). And we’re talking some of the greatest museums in the world, there.

And who the fuck goes to Paris and doesn’t go to the Louvre?

I recognize the Paris and London itineraries - they’re Big Red/_Vert_ Bus routes!

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/137 "2015-03-26T10:15:26Z")

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I want my 17 year old to go to Europe, too.

I will accept half the money the OP is requesting.

That way, the hairy, smelly, non-homework-doing kid will have to figure out how to get back in his own.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/138 "2015-03-26T11:56:46Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> You are going straight to hell for saying that specific phrase to that specific poster.
> 
> And I’ll be joining you because I laughed.
> 
> 😉

Just for that comment I dare you to donate to [Shot@Life](https://secure.globalproblems-globalsolutions.org/site/SPageNavigator/SAL_Donate.html).

No air conditioned bunnies or once in a lifetime trips for fourteen year olds. Just the real chance to help a kid truly in need and move a step closer to removing measles from the planet.

I’ll match it up to $20. Deal?

😉

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/139 "2015-03-26T12:40:28Z")

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> [@Ca3799](#):
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> I want my 17 year old to go to Europe, too.
> 
> I will accept half the money the OP is requesting.
> 
> That way, the hairy, smelly, non-homework-doing kid will have to figure out how to get back in his own.

But, you could always move while he was gone.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-four-thousand-dollar-trip-to-europe-for-a-fourteen-year-old/715939/140 "2015-03-26T13:00:31Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> But, you could always move while he was gone.

My parents (divorced from each other and living in different places) both did that while I was in basic training. Luckily they picked me up at the airport!

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