# A Fresh-Water Paddle-Wheeled Naval Carrier. In RL. Involves Bush. Citelink

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**Created:** [March 21, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925 "2007-03-21T22:17:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/1 "2007-03-21T22:17:35Z")

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This jabbering Roundhead Madness is all true!  
We _built_ a paddle wheeled aircraft carrier, & then deployed it in Lake Michigan. In fact, we built **two** OG-be-dammed paddle-wheeled fresh-water aircraft carriers, & deployed them in Lake Michigan.

And George Bush **was** involved!  
And he **landed on it**!  
_ **Several times!!** _  
To help _Win The War™_!

Of course, it _was_ built in World War 2.

And it was George _Mark One_.

And they _were_ training ships.

But they _were_ Paddle-Wheeled Fresh Water Aircraft Carriers.

And here are the links to prove it–

> **[USS Wolverine (IX-64)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wolverine_%28IX-64%29)**
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> USS Wolverine (IX-64) was a training ship used by the United States Navy during World War II. She was originally named Seeandbee and was built as a Great Lakes luxury side-wheel steamer cruise ship for the Cleveland and Buffalo Transit Company. Seeandbee was launched on 9 November 1912 and was normally used on the Cleveland, Ohio, to Buffalo, New York, route with special cruises to other ports. After the original owners went bankrupt in 1939 Seeandbee was purchased by Chicago-based C & B Trans

> **[USS Sable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Sable_%28IX-81%29)**
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> USS Sable (IX-81) was a United States Navy training ship during World War II, originally built as the passenger ship Greater Buffalo, a sidewheel excursion steamboat. She was purchased by the Navy in 1942 and converted to a training aircraft carrier to be used on the Great Lakes. She lacked a hangar deck, elevators, or armament and was not a true warship, but she provided advanced training of naval aviators in carrier takeoffs and landings.
> On her first day of service, 59 pilots became qualif...

Why have we not heard of this before? 😕🆒

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/2 "2007-03-21T22:41:24Z")

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Hey man, so long as they ain’t got Mel Gibson on board for a huge poker game with Jodie Foster and James Garner, I’m cool with it.

Tripler  
Oh, and so long as they don’t make trireme-submarines, I’m cool with that too. . .

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/3 "2007-03-21T22:47:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
…We _built_ a paddle wheeled aircraft carrier, & then deployed it in Lake Michigan…  
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nitpick: they were _converted_ from existing paddlewheelers.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/4 "2007-03-22T00:38:23Z")

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I knew that you were referring to the _Sable_ and the _Wolverine_ without previewing or opening the thread. That must say something about me, but I’m not sure I want to know what.

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**Author:** ![jhinman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@jhinman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jhinman)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/5 "2007-03-22T03:52:25Z")

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I stumbled on these about a week ago and was saddened to see niether one was saved to become a museum ship.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/6 "2007-03-22T06:42:18Z")

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[QUOTE=OttoDaFe]  
I knew that you were referring to the _Sable_ and the _Wolverine_ without previewing or opening the thread. That must say something about me, but I’m not sure I want to know what.  
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Well, it says much the same thing about me. I’d first encountered a mention of them in the memoirs of R.ADM Daniel V. Gallery. Actually, looking at pics of the Wolverine, it’s surprising to me, just how normal it looks, really.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/7 "2007-03-22T14:34:46Z")

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…I wonder if the Bolivian Navy has heard of this… 😃

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/8 "2007-03-22T14:50:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
Hey man, so long as they ain’t got Mel Gibson on board for a huge poker game with Jodie Foster and James Garner, I’m cool with it.

Tripler  
Oh, and so long as they don’t make trireme-submarines, I’m cool with that too. . .  
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Let’s have a paddle-wheeled naval carrier! With hookers! And poker! In fact, forget the carrier!

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-fresh-water-paddle-wheeled-naval-carrier-in-rl-involves-bush-citelink/396925/9 "2007-03-22T17:32:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Tripler]  
Oh, and so long as they don’t make trireme-submarines, I’m cool with that too. . .  
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Not quite trireme, but how’s about a [triple hulled](http://www.hrmspotvis.nl/frames/homepage_uk.htm) submarine?
