# A friend tells me he voted twice for Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 10, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087 "2024-09-10T21:20:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/121 "2024-09-14T03:12:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Guess this isn’t fair. You can tell if someone is a MAGA. Got none in my group. > So no one talks about it. > MAGAS can’t help themselves from spilling nonsense. The shy Trump voter is still a real thing. There’s still a statistically significant chance that someone who is a woman/gay/racial-minority/urban/etc. supports Trump but just won’t say out loud. I’ve known a few who confided such views quietly. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/122 "2024-09-14T03:37:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ve mentioned this here before. I feel Trump is essentially running a pigeon drop. > > A pigeon drop is a con. A con man will find a sucker and they will “discover” an opportunity to make money by jointly conning some victim. The con is that the supposed victim is actually the con man’s real accomplice and they set up the supposed opportunity. The sucker thought he was working with the con man to get money from the victim. But the reality is the con man and the “victim” were working together to get money from the sucker. > > The strength of the pigeon drop is that the con man doesn’t have to hide that it’s a con. The sucker knows a con is going on and that his supposed partner is a con man. So the sucker lets down his usual suspicions. > > Trump is running a pigeon drop. He winks at the magas and tells them they’re smart people like him. And they’re going to work with Trump and together they’re going to con those dumb liberals. So every time somebody accuses Trump of being a lying crook, the magas chuckle knowingly. They go through the motions of denying the accusation but they know he’s a lying crook. They think he’s on their side and the victims Trump will rob will be the liberals. > > Of course to carry out this great liberal owning crime, Trump needs to be President. So the magas need to send him a few million dollars so he can get elected again. Then he’ll commit his crime against the liberals and Trump and his maga partners will reap the rewards. > > Trump, on the other hand, is already reaping the rewards. He’s pocketing those millions of dollars the magas keep sending him. The magas are the ones getting conned by Trump not the liberals. This is perfect. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/123 "2024-09-14T12:55:18Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > …Things had quietened down by mid 2021, but now we again see more people who just can’t stop. People who think the lunch table with 10 colleagues isn’t “work”. People who think the coffee station isn’t “work”. Every single one of these people is a right winger. > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Here’s a _huge_ hasty generalization: > > In my relatively limited socializations since about 2016, I’ve found that the Trump supporters are far more likely just to shift the conversation _radically_ to politics – no matter what the prior subject was – than moderates or liberals. > > Loudly, proudly, and entirely unabashedly – as if nobody in the world could _possibly_ hold another viewpoint. I went by one of my work’s satellite offices yesterday and was astonished to see all of the crazy right-wing anti-Harris and pro-Trump propaganda posted on bulletin boards all over the office. Back in 2016 there were “Hillary for Prison” stickers (and even a figurine of Hillary in a prison jumpsuit) in some people’s cubicles. This was worse because it was all over the place. I can’t believe management hasn’t told them to knock if off. I’m guessing it’s because they agree with them, even if they (management) are a bit more circumspect. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/124 "2024-09-14T13:14:40Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > > I’ve found that the Trump supporters are far more likely just to shift the conversation _radically_ to politics – no matter what the prior subject was – than moderates or liberals. > > Yup and then you can complain to HR when they do. Win win. Win win? Not if it blows back on you and you get shunned by colleagues and penalized by management because they are Trumpers as well. If I’m going to go down the whistleblower path, it’s going to be for something more substantial than idiotic Trump propaganda being parroted by Trumpers or even being posted on bulletin boards in a satellite office.\* (I do have standards though. If someone was posting hateful shit like the equivalent of [_Der Stürmer_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_St%C3%BCrmer), I would absolutely go to HR.) \*Although one flyer I saw yesterday was pretty insane and is still pissing me off. It was graphic, homophobic, and anti-Harris all at once. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/125 "2024-09-14T13:34:37Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Win win? Not in my industry. That would be very frowned upon. And win win because then the Trumper’s life is worse. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/126 "2024-09-14T13:47:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Some people are okay with supporting draconian laws because they think those laws will only be applied to anonymous people they don’t know. So they’re shocked when it ends up being their husband, their grandchild, their neighbor - or themselves - who gets targeted. They didn’t realize that they’re just an anonymous person to most people. There was a Vox article about this sort of situation when Trump was president: > [@](#): > > On Monday, [the New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html)’s Patricia Mazzei published a dispatch from Marianna, Florida — a small, politically conservative town that depends on jobs from a federal prison and thus has been deeply hurt by the government shutdown. In the piece, Marianna residents grapple with the fact that President Donald Trump, who most residents support, is playing a role in the pain created by lost wages. > > Most Marianna residents support Trump’s border wall, his key demand in the shutdown fight, and don’t blame him for the fight. But Crystal Minton, a secretary at the prison who is also a single mother caring for disabled parents, had a somewhat different reaction — one that reveals an essential truth about the core Trump’s political appeal. > > “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. **He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”** > **[“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be”: a Trump voter says the quiet...](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida)** > > “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/127 "2024-09-14T13:56:50Z")
There was also the Trump voter who was married to an undocumented immigrant. Hilarity ensued. > **[Husband of Indiana Trump supporter deported | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html)** > > Helen Beristain voted for Donald Trump even though she is married to an undocumented immigrant. He has now has been deported. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/128 "2024-09-14T14:02:16Z")
And a mention of some obscure Indiana mayor… ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/129 "2024-09-14T14:03:52Z")
I just looked the wife up, she now lives in Mexico with her family. She effectively deported herself. Man would I love to have that much social capital in a marriage as that husband has, I’m never mowing the lawn or taking out the trash again. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/130 "2024-09-14T15:10:43Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I just looked the wife up, she now lives in Mexico with her family. She effectively deported herself. > > Man would I love to have that much social capital in a marriage as that husband has, I’m never mowing the lawn or taking out the trash again. Right, because I’m sure this woman - who voted for Trump - has a history of accepting her circumstances are due to her own poor decisions and not blaming other people for the consequences of her own bad choices. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/131 "2024-09-14T15:24:09Z")
Yeah, I’d love to read a with interview her about the 2024 election, I bet she’s still undecided. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/132 "2024-09-14T15:48:18Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > There was also the Trump voter who was married to an undocumented immigrant. Hilarity ensued. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html) Never have I seen a more perfect example of that biblical aphorism that you reap what you sow. From the article: > [@CNN](#): > > ## Voter thought the ‘good people’ would stay > > “I think our President is going to keep all the good people here. He is not going to tear up families. I don’t think he wants to do that. He just wants to keep us safe,” Helen Beristain told WSBT in March. > > Today, Ansari [the family lawyer] said, she feels betrayed. > > When asked why she voted for Trump despite his harsh anti-immigration stance… “When asked why she voted for the “Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party,” she said, ‘I never thought the leopards would eat _my_ face.’” Per the article, the family lawyer then said: > [@CNN](#): > > “Granger is in a very Republican town,” he said. “She has a lot of conservative people around her. They run a steakhouse that serves very working-class individuals. She is in the middle of Indiana. If everyone around you is only saying one thing…people live in news bubbles.” Ah yes, […simple farmers, people of the land. The common clay of the new West](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTQ7__NNDI). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/133 "2024-09-14T16:34:41Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > How do some of you deal with those at your place of employment? How do _you_ deal with working with a non-political asshole or idiot? Do you pitch a huge fit and refuse to interact with them? Or do you just grin and bear it for as long as necessary to do whatever job-relevant task you need to complete, and then bitch about it after work to your friends/spouse/bartender? That’s how we deal with working with Trump supporters. We grin and bear it, because that’s what the job requires. You seem to assume someone who has high standards for close, personal relationships would have even more stringent standards for casual work relations. That’s not how that works - people who are less important to me personally are held to _lower_ standards. I care a lot more if someone in my family is bigoted against me than I do if the guy who wraps my burrito is bigoted against me. Obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087/134 "2024-09-14T17:09:18Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I care a lot more if someone in my family is bigoted against me than I do if the guy who wraps my burrito is bigoted against me. Unless the guy who wraps your burrito is not just specifically bigoted against your class but is willing to take action about it. Then you have someone else wrap your burrito. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-friend-tells-me-he-voted-twice-for-trump/1007087.md?page=6)