# A G&S Abomination - HMS Pinafore by the Guthrie Theater **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291 "2011-10-20T20:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/41 "2011-10-22T21:40:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > If the standard G&S works are considered old hat in need of modernization, maybe the problem is that hardly anyone seems to perform works other than _The Mikado_ and _H.M.S. Pinafore_. How many times must they put on just these two? There are other deserving operas by G&S that I’d like to see, but they are never staged, at least not in my area. Try universities (if you’re near one). My college had a G&S society, and I’m pretty sure they weren’t the only one in the area. They do Mikado, Pirates, and Pinafore a little more often than the others, but they seem to cycle through the rest. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/42 "2011-10-22T21:49:41Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > _Porgy Express_? Hah!!! I will say that I love [Hot Mikado](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Mikado), a jazzy update from the mid 80s that remains (in my opinion) wonderfully faithful to the original music while completely re-orchestrating it. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/43 "2011-10-22T22:02:37Z")
Thank god someone got it… ---
**Author:** ![FeAudrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7feea3/32.png) [@FeAudrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FeAudrey)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/44 "2011-10-23T00:18:50Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > … can anyone recommend a good recording of _The Sorcerer_? There may be better versions, but the most widely available seems to be the one from the “Complete Gilbert & Sullivan” that the BBC and PBS did two or three decades back: > **[The Sorcerer (TV Movie 1982) ⭐ 7.2 | Comedy, Musical](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0184910/)** > > The Sorcerer: Directed by Dave Heather. With Clive Revill, David Kernan, Donald Adams, Nuala Willis. The villagers of Ploverleigh are celebrating the marriage of Alexis, son of Sir Marmaduke Poindextre, to Aline, daughter of Lady Sangazure, who just... (with Clive Revill as John Wellington Wells) Agree that the Guthrie “Pinafore” was … strange. I will pass by the interpolated Victoria to concentrate on the broad readings given Captain Corcoran and Sir Joseph – much funnier when played straight. I thought that the singing was actually pretty good, given the way the score had been hacked. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/45 "2011-10-23T00:46:24Z")
I feel like asking anyone who would presume to replace Sullivan’s songs “So, you’ve been knighted for your music too?” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/46 "2011-10-23T00:48:48Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I feel like asking anyone who would presume to replace Sullivan’s songs “So, you’ve been knighted for your music too?” Seriously. I mean, I’ve written parodies of “Modern Major-General” (who hasn’t?), but I’d never try to replace the real thing with my doggerel. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/47 "2011-10-23T03:53:05Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > _Porgy Express_? I am so jealous that you thought of this line before I did. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291/48 "2011-10-23T04:26:30Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I am so jealous that you thought of this line before I did. What could possibly be a better collaboration than Gershwin and Lloyd Webber? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-g-s-abomination-hms-pinafore-by-the-guthrie-theater/600291.md?page=2)