# A game for the impatient botanist

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 31, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781 "2007-12-31T08:19:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/1 "2007-12-31T08:19:10Z")

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[http://www.addictinggames.com/seed.html](http://www.addictinggames.com/seed.html)

You grow flowers, and try to crossbreed/mutate/genetically splice them. I’ve been tinkering with it all night.

Here’s the DNA for something I made that looks like a rose bush:

44.3, 0x38393e, 5, 10, 35.4, 0.1, 1.0, 1.4, 53.7, 72.5, 0.1, 4, 0.2, 0.1, 0.0, 0.0, 1.1, -0.0, 0.2, -0.3, 0xab4c88, 0xfad4ea, 5.3, 3.0, 7, 6, 0.5, 0.8

(Hit “Show DNA” and then copy and paste that string in.)

I can’t wait to see what you guys create!

Also, it’d be pretty cool to see what you guys come up with as far as the DNA. I think I’ve figured out that the last 5 have to do with the size of the petals. And the first number is how tall it is. I’m assuming the Hex codes have to do with color.

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/2 "2007-12-31T08:23:02Z")

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Ah, yes, the hex codes are the colors. The first set is the stem color, second set is the inner petals, and third set is the outer petals. It appears to do a fade between the colors.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/3 "2007-12-31T13:37:39Z")

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Does the stem thickness indicate hardiness?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/4 "2007-12-31T16:17:32Z")

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Wow, I wish I knew more science so i was better at this. As is, here’s a pretty hybrid I created: 13.3, 0x446443, 6, 5, 41.5, 0.6, 1.3, 1.2, 46.8, 86.2, 0.5, 4, 0.1, 0.2, 0.0, 0.1, 2.1, 0.0, 0.8, 0.5, 0x768549, 0xa85272, 7.4, 10.6, 6, 4, 1.1, 1.2

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**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/5 "2007-12-31T16:56:07Z")

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I wanted to make a carnivorous plant…

I don’t think you can do it.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/6 "2007-12-31T17:11:33Z")

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Pink flower with blue stem: 85.0, 0x608d, 1, 10, 30.0, 0.0, 1.1, 1.4, 40.0, 80.0, 0.7, 2, 0.1, 0.0, 0.0, 0.1, 1.0, 0.0, 0.0, -0.4, 0xddbb44, 0xdd88dd, 5.0, 10.0, 6, 6, 0.5, 0.3

Large flower with green inner petals: 85.0, 0x44bb44, 1, 10, 30.0, 0.0, 1.1, 1.4, 40.0, 90.0, 1.0, 3, 0.1, 0.0, 0.0, 0.1, 1.6, 0.0, 0.0, -0.4, 0x42ff08, 0xdd88dd, 5.0, 10.0, 7, 6, 0.5, 0.3

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/7 "2007-12-31T17:20:52Z")

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That’s fun…

My favourite creation, thus far:

0.0, 0x2dd097, 4, 12, 33.9, 0.2, 2.2, 1.4, 80.0, 68.6, 0.0, 1, 0.2, 0.0, 0.3, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0.2, 0.7, 0xa4ff32, 0xfcbff6, 5.4, 21.1, 6, 5, 0.6, 0.8

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/8 "2007-12-31T18:52:13Z")

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After some experimentation I managed to make a pastel rose-like flower with pink outer petals and inner petals of blue and green:

82.8, 0x4fac58, 6, 6, 37.5, 0.5, 1.0, 1.2, 34.9, 68.0, 0.3, 4, 0.0, 0.1, 0.0, 0.0, 1.5, -0.1, 0.5, -0.2, 0x42ff08, 0xd8a5d8, 5.5, 8.3, 6, 6, 0.5, 0.6

Fun game!

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/9 "2007-12-31T19:40:58Z")

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Something else: 31.4, 0x70705f, 5, 5, 40.7, 0.7, 1.3, 1.1, 36.8, 63.7, 0.5, 3, 0.1, 0.2, 0.0, 0.1, 2.5, 0.0, 0.7, 0.4, 0x456053, 0xa88c8e, 7.4, 12.8, 5, 4, 0.9, 1.0

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/10 "2007-12-31T20:04:08Z")

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Yowza

47.9, 0x363a3a, 4, 7, 34.0, 0.4, 1.0, 1.2, 35.0, 70.4, 0.3, 4, 0.0, 0.2, 0.0, 0.1, 1.3, -0.0, 0.4, -0.7, 0x8667a2, 0xc580cb, 5.7, 12.9, 7, 7, 0.2, 0.5

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/11 "2007-12-31T20:15:42Z")

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I’ve managed to take my above flower and breed it into some sort of shrub.

83.9, 0x4e3a3a, 10, 18, 53.5, 0.7, 1.5, 1.4, 52.5, 70.4, 0.3, 4, 0.0, 0.3, 0.0, 0.1, 1.3, 0.0, 0.4, -0.7, 0x8667a2, 0xc580cb, 5.7, 12.9, 7, 7, 0.2, 0.5

83.9, 0x4e3a3a, 10, 18, 53.5, 0.7, 1.5, 1.4, 52.5, 70.4, 0.3, 4, 0.0, 0.2, 0.0, 0.1, 1.3, 0.0, 0.4, -0.7, 0x8667a2, 0xc580cb, 5.7, 12.9, 6, 7, 0.2, 0

Two varieties of the same basic plant. The first has more yellow in its flowers while the second is more purple.

I thought someone might like the woody breeding stock 🙂

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/12 "2008-01-01T02:01:21Z")

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Wish there was an animal version 😃

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/13 "2008-01-01T03:32:39Z")

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I, um… made a tree. 54.8, 0x557c39, 5, 5, 34.1, 0.6, 1.6, 1.2, 31.9, 70.8, 0.5, 4, 0.0, 0.1, 0.0, 0.1, 1.1, -0.1, 0.4, -0.2, 0xa48387, 0xb4c87b, 5.1, 9.2, 9, 13, 0.6, 0.8

I did not notice the shop button at first, so I was not very successful for a full 5 minutes. Awkward.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/14 "2008-01-01T03:52:28Z")

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I think I’m going to run this before I go to bed and do a wilding run. See what’s waiting for me when I wake up…

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/15 "2008-01-01T05:32:29Z")

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Okay, I’ve been playing mad scientist and genetic researcher, and I’ve managed to figure out which numbers (from left to right) do what, mostly (there are some that didn’t give any visible difference and some that gave differences that were a little vague):

1. height of stem
2. color of stem (HTML hex code)
3. number of branches
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. Stem thickness
8. ?
9. ?  
10.?  
11.diameter of center of flower  
12.number of layers of petals (including center disk)  
13.does something to the petal lengths (different size petals on one flower)  
14.something to do with different colored petals on same flower  
15.something to do with different colored petals on same flower  
16.something to do with different colored petals on same flower  
17.thickness of outline of petals  
18.something to do with the outline of the central disk  
19.something to do with the outline of the petals  
20.color of petal outline  
21.color of disk  
22.color of petals  
23.size of flower (max looks to be between 30 and 50)  
24.something to do with the angle between the petals  
25.?  
26.number of petals  
27.angle of flower on stem?  
28.shape of the petals (lower number=pointier, higher number=flatter)

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**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/16 "2008-01-01T07:16:00Z")

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I’ve been crossing, seeding and messing with the DNA all night. I may have something from SandKings by the morning.

SSG Schwartz

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/17 "2008-01-01T07:45:08Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Okay, I’ve been playing mad scientist and genetic researcher, and I’ve managed to figure out which numbers (from left to right) do what, mostly (there are some that didn’t give any visible difference and some that gave differences that were a little vague):

1. height of stem
2. color of stem (HTML hex code)
3. number of branches
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. Stem thickness
8. ?
9. ?  
10.?  
11.diameter of center of flower  
12.number of layers of petals (including center disk)  
13.does something to the petal lengths (different size petals on one flower)  
14.something to do with different colored petals on same flower  
15.something to do with different colored petals on same flower  
16.something to do with different colored petals on same flower  
17.thickness of outline of petals  
18.something to do with the outline of the central disk  
19.something to do with the outline of the petals  
20.color of petal outline  
21.color of disk  
22.color of petals  
23.size of flower (max looks to be between 30 and 50)  
24.something to do with the angle between the petals  
25.?  
26.number of petals  
27.angle of flower on stem?  
28.shape of the petals (lower number=pointier, higher number=flatter)  
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Looks about right to me, except you’re missing something: there’s two layers of petals, really. The “disc” ends up being the inner layer of petals. So 25 is the number of petals on the inside, 26 the outside, 27 is the shape of the inner petals, and 28 the outer.

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/18 "2008-01-01T07:46:25Z")

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[QUOTE=chaoticbear]  
I, um… made a tree. 54.8, 0x557c39, 5, 5, 34.1, 0.6, 1.6, 1.2, 31.9, 70.8, 0.5, 4, 0.0, 0.1, 0.0, 0.1, 1.1, -0.1, 0.4, -0.2, 0xa48387, 0xb4c87b, 5.1, 9.2, 9, 13, 0.6, 0.8

I did not notice the shop button at first, so I was not very successful for a full 5 minutes. Awkward.  
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Hah, don’t worry, it took me about that long to notice, too. Though I did end up with some pretty interesting specimens.

Took me even longer to figure out I could mess with DNA. Then I went on into full mad scientist mode.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/19 "2008-01-01T08:05:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Electronic Chaos]  
Looks about right to me, except you’re missing something: there’s two layers of petals, really. The “disc” ends up being the inner layer of petals. So 25 is the number of petals on the inside, 26 the outside, 27 is the shape of the inner petals, and 28 the outer.  
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Ah…I was using the “alpine lily” preset to test it, and that doesn’t have inner petals until they evolve. Since I was checking snapshot differences right after seeding, that didn’t show up.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-for-the-impatient-botanist/431781/20 "2008-01-01T08:08:45Z")

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Okay, wilding run begun. I let the default flower (the “alpine lily”) self-seed by hitting “evolv-o-matic” and I’m going to bed. We’ll see what we end up with after 8 hours or so of completely free evolution…

There’s no selection involved at all with the “evolv-o-matic”, though…it’s totally random which individual plants end up reproducing. Still, should be interesting.

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