# A Game of Thrones (HBO series) \[SPOILERS\]

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**Created:** [January 17, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955 "2011-01-17T16:36:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/21 "2011-01-18T23:42:21Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Eh, Lena Heady is pretty hot. Not smoking, tongue on the floor hot, but she’s a looker. I don’t know how her acting is, but what smoking hot babes are good actors? I can’t think of any. I’ll trade talent for looks any day.

There are no smoking good looking women who can act?

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Littlefinger obsesses because he was some shit-nobody growing up and Cat was the lord’s daughter, not because she was so gorgeous. I imagine she was less of a bitch before spending 15 years thinking her husband cheated on her and had her whole family murdered too.

He did have the lord’s daughter - it was Cat’s sister whose name escapes me at the moment. He didn’t want the lord’s daughter, he wanted Cat specifically.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/22 "2011-01-18T23:46:47Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> [http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17900000/Sandor-The-Hound-Clegane-game-of-thrones-17904352-500-279.jpg](http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17900000/Sandor-The-Hound-Clegane-game-of-thrones-17904352-500-279.jpg)

Ahhh, yesssssss. Oh my goodness, I can’t wait!

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/23 "2011-01-18T23:47:55Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> There are no smoking good looking women who can act?

Can you name one?

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> He did have the lord’s daughter - it was Cat’s sister whose name escapes me at the moment. He didn’t want the lord’s daughter, he wanted Cat specifically.
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> -Joe

Well yeah, it’s not the entire thing. If it was just looks he’d have forgotten about her the instant he went to King’s Landing. (Lyssa Arryn btw)

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/24 "2011-01-18T23:49:20Z")

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> [@gallows\_fodder](#):
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> Ahhh, yesssssss. Oh my goodness, I can’t wait!

Also, you can see a flash of the fight at the Hand’s tourney at 45 seconds of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7JYw5kQg\_Y&feature=channel](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7JYw5kQg_Y&feature=channel).

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/25 "2011-01-19T01:29:03Z")

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I think Sean Bean’s reading of the signature line - Winter Is Coming - is spot-on perfect. Then again, so is Sean Bean.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/26 "2011-01-19T16:51:59Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> [http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17900000/Sandor-The-Hound-Clegane-game-of-thrones-17904352-500-279.jpg](http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17900000/Sandor-The-Hound-Clegane-game-of-thrones-17904352-500-279.jpg)

That’s…not at all what I pictured the helm looking like. Ugh.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/27 "2011-01-19T17:03:41Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> When does it start?
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> Tell those of us who don’t know anything about the source material a little about it.
> 
> HBO series are generally awesome so I know that I’ll at least give it a chance.

Honestly, I’d suggest you pick up the book, as I’ve never heard anyone describe it as anywhere near as cool as it is.

Picture a very in-depth fantasy world, but much more political intrigue than actual fantasy in the story (there are some minor elements of fantasy, though). Lots of shades of gray in characters–this isn’t at all a fight between good and evil. One of the writers said “It’s more _The Lion in Winter_ than it is _Lord of the Rings_,” and I think that’s a decent description of what you’re going to get.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/28 "2011-01-20T18:47:33Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Which ones? I though Ned, Jamie, Tyrion, Jon, Robert, and Littlefinger were obvious. Cersei and Catelyn were there too.

I can’t figure out:

- who is saying that winter is coming and they know in their bones it will be long?
- at 16-17 seconds there’s a flash of a dark-haired man wearing silver armor, who is that?
- who is sitting on the throne at 25 seconds? Jon? Rob? Theon? Viserys?
- 32 seconds, is that Littlefinger?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/29 "2011-01-20T18:57:24Z")

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16-17: Doesn’t appear to be dark-haired. Looks like Jaime Lannister to me. It’s the same guy who is pictured at 15 seconds, I think, and that’s clearly Jaime, as is the voiceover. It’s just the lighting that makes his hair look a bit darker in 16-17.  
25: Looks like Jon Snow. Note the white direwolf.  
32: Littlefinger is talking, but I’m not 100% sure that’s him pictured. Here’s a shot of him delivering that line: [Littlefinger](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SniTwfm5BwE/TP9h-GDvdyI/AAAAAAAADI8/ICq0JVwWJE4/s1600/Littlefinger.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/30 "2011-01-20T19:01:14Z")

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Just noticed I missed your first question. “Winter is coming” is delivered by Ned. I’m not sure who is saying the 2nd part–it sounds like a different voice.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/31 "2011-01-20T21:13:11Z")

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Looks good. I’ll probably wait for the DVD, though; not worth it to get HBO just for this IMHO.

And please, George, _please_ finish the series already, would ya already?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/32 "2011-01-21T00:10:13Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> I can’t figure out:
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> - who is saying that winter is coming and they know in their bones it will be long?
> - at 16-17 seconds there’s a flash of a dark-haired man wearing silver armor, who is that?
> - who is sitting on the throne at 25 seconds? Jon? Rob? Theon? Viserys?
> - 32 seconds, is that Littlefinger?

Ned says winter is coming.

Nobody says they know in their bones it will be long. Catelyn says she known in her bones they did it. I’m assuming this refers to the Lannisters and Bran’s fall or assassination attempt.

It’s Jaime at 16-17. He’s blond and the armor is gold, although the lighting isn’t the greatest.

25- That’s Jon. Notice the white wold? That’s ghost. Viserys has platinum blond hair.

32- Yes, Littlefinger. Pointed beard and the quote.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/33 "2011-01-21T23:11:48Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Is anybody else eagerly awaiting this?

If only to see a friend from work in the background, yes 🙂

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**Author:** ![MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3e96dc/32.png) [@MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MakeSweetPassionateSenseToMe)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/34 "2011-03-01T09:58:03Z")

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This thread needs a bit of resurrection, methinks.

I’ve noticed the sheer amount of drooling and second-by-second analysis slathered upon the short teaser trailer, so I can’t but imagine what this eleven minute analysis of the show as a whole will do for you. (Though if you lot are anything like me, you will have to keep picking your jaw of the floor at the sheep amount of awesome, PLUS interviews with the man himself!)

I picked up this series to read back in September not knowing the series was coming until I was juuust getting engrossed in the first book. I. Cannot. Wait.

As one hellish winter concludes, another comes…

[From the source itself](http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/index.html#/game-of-thrones/about/video/inside-game-of-thrones.html/eNrjcmbO0CzLTEnNd8xLzKksyUx2zs8rSa0oUc-PSYEJBSSmp-ol5qYyFzLnszECoXRiaUl+QU5ipW1JUWkqJyMjAG2-Fzg=)

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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/35 "2011-03-01T23:09:48Z")

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Do we know what changes they are making for the tv version.

Are they dropping the whole ‘others’ plot? Which frankly i wouldn’t miss, I always found that far less interesting than the whole dynastic struggle between the factions.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/36 "2011-03-01T23:52:44Z")

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> [@DeptfordX](#):
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> Do we know what changes they are making for the tv version.
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> Are they dropping the whole ‘others’ plot? Which frankly i wouldn’t miss, I always found that far less interesting than the whole dynastic struggle between the factions.

That would be like LOTR dropping Sauron.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/37 "2011-03-02T00:04:20Z")

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But the Others plot is pretty damn central - it’s the whole Ice thing no?

Trailer looks great to me shame it’ll be a while before we see it in NZ though…

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**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/38 "2011-03-02T01:31:19Z")

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I’m hoping HBO will see this through. They have a nasty history of canceling or compressing great series.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/39 "2011-03-02T02:28:35Z")

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> [@Lethal\_Babydoll](#):
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> For the past 2 years, my wife has signed up for HBO when **“True Blood”** season started and canceled it when **“True Blood”** season ended (this past year just as I was getting into **“Boardwalk Empire.”** )
> 
> I told her she’s got to sign up early this year for **“A Game of Thrones.”** She said she’d think about it.
> 
> I have high hopes. She usually gives me what I want (like that iPad on our recently anniversay, hoozah!!!)

Not to get too personal or anything, but that post strikes me as rather odd. Your wife gets to sign up for HBO whenever she wants to, but you have to have her permission to do it when you want to?

Anyway, I had never heard of this before seeing a advert for it on HBO. I watched the preview the did a few months ago, and it looked… OK. I almost always give HBO series a chance, so I’ll do that for this one, too.

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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-game-of-thrones-hbo-series-spoilers/567955/40 "2011-03-02T11:15:14Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That would be like LOTR dropping Sauron.

I don’t see that. You could just make a show about the war of the 5 kingdoms with the exiled Targaryens across the sea plotting their return and it would work fine.

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