# A "Glee" episode even \*I\* have to watch: Joss Whedon + NPH **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 16, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671 "2010-05-16T19:54:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/1 "2010-05-16T19:54:04Z")
I once dismayed a sweetie by stating that I don’t care about musicals. Some I love, but for the most part, blech. This is normal for me, as in ‘I don’t care about anime’ but love a couple; don’t care about x type of music, but love a couple songs. It’s par for the course. So, I don’t hate Glee or anything, just never intended to watch it. But the episode on Tuesday, May 18th? I’ve gotta see that. Joss Whedon is directing \, and Neal Patrick Harris is guest star. AND again, I seem to be getting a lot more fun out of “NPH as icon” than I ever did out of any of his actual roles \ So…there we go. I will be DVR-ing this, and my sweetie will be going ‘WTF IS THIS’ when he sees it in the queue. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/2 "2010-05-16T20:51:28Z")
Thanks for the heads-up. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/3 "2010-05-17T00:44:15Z")
Oh, I knew about NPH but I hadn’t heard about Whedon. Whedon does well with good dialogue and large ensemble casts; I hope this goes well. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/4 "2010-05-17T01:48:33Z")
Did Joss Whedon write it? ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/5 "2010-05-17T02:20:37Z")
Apparantly no; one of the co-creators of ‘Glee’ did. It seems there are some good Glee episodes and some not-so-good ones, and this is apparantly a good one. So…if you’ve never seen it before, might be the one time to give it a shot. 😛 If I can sit through some kid’s cartoon, listening to a megamaniacal supervillian sing out his life story JUST BECAUSE IT’S NPH SINGING, well…I don’t think Glee will be any worse. =o ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/6 "2010-05-17T07:53:42Z")
I follow NPH and Joss Whedon and Glee anyway. But if you are looking for a Joss + NPH + musical precedent look no further than [Dr Horrible](http://www.drhorrible.com/)! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/7 "2010-05-17T14:24:54Z")
Isn’t this going to be going up against the penultimate episode of _Lost_? _Glee_ just got bumped to Hulu. Again. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/8 "2010-05-17T14:39:01Z")
Thing about Glee is, they haven’t done a lot of show tunes recently. It’s been pop hits and Madonna. They got away from where they started. I know Kurt did his Gypsy rendition, but that’s been about it. So if you’re not into musicals, that doesn’t mean you have to stay away from Glee. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/9 "2010-05-18T03:33:36Z")
I hope it’s better than that musical Buffy episode. I understand it made sense to people who had been following the series, but, even for them, the singing itself was pretty horrible. A song can move the plot, but it should absolutely not be required to hear every word of a song to figure out what is going on. Especially when your singers can’t enunciate. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/10 "2010-05-18T04:40:59Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Isn’t this going to be going up against the penultimate episode of _Lost_? > > _Glee_ just got bumped to Hulu. Again. Thought the last episode was Sunday? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/11 "2010-05-18T06:00:54Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Thing about Glee is, they haven’t done a lot of show tunes recently. It’s been pop hits and Madonna. They got away from where they started. Glee started with plenty of pop hits, too, but you’re right that they have done fewer show tunes lately. The “theme” aspects to recent episodes haven’t lent themselves to show tunes, for one thing. And I suspect (though I haven’t actually checked) that their show tune renditions don’t sell on itunes as well as their pop covers and I’d bet that is driving song selection for the shows. > [@Taomist](#): > > Thought the last episode was Sunday? That’s why he said _penultimate_. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/12 "2010-05-18T06:46:57Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Isn’t this going to be going up against the penultimate episode of _Lost_? > > _Glee_ just got bumped to Hulu. Again. Yup. Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/13 "2010-05-18T06:56:53Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Thought the last episode was Sunday? “Penultimate” means the _second to last_. The penultimate episode is today (Tuesday) and the finale (ultimate episode) is this Sunday. For those not wanting to miss out on things, there’s a Darlton bit on Jimmy Kimmel Friday night, and a general Lost thing on Kimmel Sunday night. On Saturday there’s an enhanced version of the Pilot (pop up video). On Sunday before the show there’s some kind of generic Lost thing they have before each season’s finale. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/14 "2010-05-18T10:31:00Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Thought the last episode was Sunday? No, that was the antepenultimate, second-from-last _Lost_ last week. It’s the next-to-last _Lost_ next week. 🙂 (I may have the facts wrong here, but when I saw “penultimate _Lost_” in that other post, the sentence wrote itself in my head, and I just had to post it! 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/15 "2010-05-19T03:21:38Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Isn’t this going to be going up against the penultimate episode of _Lost_? > > _Glee_ just got bumped to Hulu. Again. Ah… the beauty of Tivo. BTW, I absolutely loved the Safety Dance sequence. Wheelchair boy has got some moves. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/16 "2010-05-19T03:32:02Z")
That final shot was a heartbreaker: Artie in the foreground, his girlfriend dancing with another man in the background. Yeah, kick me in the gut, Whendon! I know the cast is getting crowded, but when do Mike and Matt get something to do other than pop and lock? Hell, they let Santana sing, give Shaft and Other Asian a couple of lines! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/17 "2010-05-19T05:10:44Z")
They’re totally eavesdropping on us - we talk about Patty Lupone, she shows up in the next episode. That was fun; not nearly enough awful Sue, though. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/18 "2010-05-19T05:25:18Z")
Best episode of the season so far. Loved Artie and the _Safety Dance_. I’d heard he was one of the best dancers in the cast. NPH was great–I loved he and Morrison singing _Piano Man_ and then _Dream On_. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/19 "2010-05-19T07:35:35Z")
dream on was good but Zero (by my count) throwaway lines from ditzy cherleader?? ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671/20 "2010-05-19T08:13:18Z")
**pancakes3** , I don’t recall Brittany saying anything, but she did get a few reaction shots, and I’m pretty sure she got to dance in Safety Dance. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-glee-episode-even-i-have-to-watch-joss-whedon-nph/539671.md?page=2)