# "A great beauty" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 5, 2006, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369 "2006-10-05T10:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/41 "2006-10-06T03:15:35Z")
Kate Winslet NOT a great beauty? :eek: :eek: :eek: You need a doctor, dude. I don’t know if it’s an optometrist you require (for extreme myopia), an ER doc (to help you get off this acid trip) or a psychiatrist (as you’re obviously delusional), but you NEED A DOCTOR. Kate is among the greatest beauties of our time. She should be kept by law away from naval shipyards, as her face is the sort that launches a thousand ships. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/42 "2006-10-06T04:05:11Z")
[QUOTE=Winston Bongo] Two words: Grace Kelly. Everyone’s _gotta_ agree on that one, right? [/QUOTE] I did, right up until the first time I saw the swimsuit scene in _High Society_. Bones on a stick. Yuck. And as for the OP: Kate Winslet is one of the most stunningly beautiful women of all time. The whole package: face, body, voice, brain (as best one can tell from this distance). So yes, A Great Beauty. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/43 "2006-10-06T04:08:56Z")
Um, **Skald**? **Twickster** ’s a chick. (And a damn cool one, too.) But I’ll let you slide this time, because I really dug your line about Kate and shipyards. So true! ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/44 "2006-10-06T05:42:08Z")
[QUOTE=Sonia Montdore] Without these traits, you have Paris Hilton, pretty but empty. [/QUOTE] Paris Hilton…pretty…Those words don’t go together. The best you can say about Paris is that she’s not ugly. And I know this is not about guys, but a few years ago, when Hugh Jackman was in his first wave of X-Men 1 fame, I described him as “beautiful. Not the way a woman is beautiful, but the way the Pathetique is beautiful, or Stonehenge at sunset. Not only flawless, but intriguing.” Similarly, I was reading a thread about Lost elsewhere on the net, and someone said, “I don’t understand all the Sayid love. I don’t see what’s so hot about him.” I sat stunned, and finally decided not to even try to reply. Naveen Andrews is another of those beautiful-but-not-in-a-feminine-way men, but I honestly can’t explain how or why. I can’t say, “Well, his nose is like this and his shoulders are like that…” There’s just something that draws the eye; something more than the sum of the parts. ---
**Author:** ![straykat23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@straykat23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straykat23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/45 "2006-10-06T05:56:31Z")
Rita Hayworth. I was going to provide a photo link but there were too many. Just google Images, Rita Hayworth. Awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/46 "2006-10-06T06:35:01Z")
I think Catherine Zeta-Jones and Charlize Theron are the two most beautiful women on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/47 "2006-10-06T09:55:11Z")
[QUOTE=Alan Smithee] Um, **Skald**? **Twickster** ’s a chick. (And a damn cool one, too.) [/quote] :smack: Um…how 'bout I claim that in the villainous community, “dude” is a non-gendered term? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/48 "2006-10-06T10:30:25Z")
**Rilchiam** – ditto and ditto on Hugh Jackman and Naveen Andrews. And don’t forget **Jude Law**. **George Clooney** , however, is merely (sic) handsome. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/49 "2006-10-06T11:23:23Z")
Kate Winslet would fall into my “great beauty” category. Grace Kelly looks too generic to me to qualify as “beauty”. For me to really find someone attractive they have to have something distinctive about the way they look. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/50 "2006-10-06T11:54:50Z")
The most beautiful woman currently on screen anywhere in the world is French newsreader [Melissa Theuriau](http://flickr.com/photos/vedia/sets/530783/) . If anyone dares disagree, it’s pistols at dawn 😃 . ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/51 "2006-10-06T12:07:22Z")
[QUOTE=koeeoaddi] Two great beauties: Michelle Pfeiffer in Ladyhawke and Alice Krige in Ghoststory. Meg Ryan has that cute-as-a-button thing down cold, but I wouldn’t call her a great beauty. [/QUOTE] You _will_ call Meg Ryan a great beauty…don’t make me come over there :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/52 "2006-10-06T15:26:19Z")
I was thinking this over last night and realized why I can’t consider Kate Winslett as one of the great beauties. She’s too young. Let me explain, for me to move someone (in my mind anyway) from the beautiful into the great beauty catergory they need to have also aged well or been recognizable as a great beauty for many years. That is why women like Sophia Loren, Catherine Denueve and Isabella Rosselini make that list for me and women like Kate Winslett and Tyra Banks who are unquestionably beautiful women do not. I’m reminded of something I heard once, though I forget where. When you are beautiful young, it is expected and is an accident of nature. When you are beautiful older that you have created yourself, that is beauty you have earned. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/53 "2006-10-06T15:35:38Z")
[QUOTE=Struan] The most beautiful woman currently on screen anywhere in the world is French newsreader [Melissa Theuriau](http://flickr.com/photos/vedia/sets/530783/) . If anyone dares disagree, it’s pistols at dawn 😃 . [/QUOTE] _Trop de maquillage._ But that comes with the (TV newscaster) territory. I’m sure she’s stunning without it. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/54 "2006-10-06T15:49:02Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] …for me to move someone (in my mind anyway) from the beautiful into the great beauty catergory they need to have also aged well or been recognizable as a great beauty for many years… [/QUOTE] Excellent point! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/55 "2006-10-06T15:50:18Z")
[QUOTE=OneCentStamp] _Trop de maquillage._ But that comes with the (TV newscaster) territory. I’m sure she’s stunning without it. [/QUOTE] Agreed, but then few in this thread have seen the objects of their desire without their war-paint on. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/56 "2006-10-06T15:56:31Z")
[QUOTE=Struan] Agreed, but then few in this thread have seen the objects of their desire without their war-paint on. [/QUOTE] I suppose this is very true. Even so I’d venture to suggest that even without the warpaint the objects of posters desires would still be pretty fanciable ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/57 "2006-10-07T01:08:25Z")
Jordana Brewster! Alexis Bledel! ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/58 "2006-10-07T01:40:11Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] I was thinking this over last night and realized why I can’t consider Kate Winslett as one of the great beauties. She’s too young. Let me explain, for me to move someone (in my mind anyway) from the beautiful into the great beauty catergory they need to have also aged well or been recognizable as a great beauty for many years. [/QUOTE] I understand your point, but i’m not sure anyone really “earns” beauty. That said,I’ve known who kate winslet was for about ten years now, since Heavenly Creatures, and thought she was heart-thumpingly gorgeous all that time. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/59 "2006-10-07T01:45:08Z")
[QUOTE=Struan] The most beautiful woman currently on screen anywhere in the world is French newsreader [Melissa Theuriau](http://flickr.com/photos/vedia/sets/530783/) . If anyone dares disagree, it’s pistols at dawn 😃 . [/QUOTE] I just followed your link, and Ms. Theuriau, though very pretty, isn’t even as lovely as Campbell Brown, much less Kate Winslet. Draw your pistol, and I’ll see you at sunrise. Of course I’ll be accompanied by my usual horde of flying fire-spitting howler monkeys, but y’all knew that. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369/60 "2006-10-07T02:59:53Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] I just followed your link, and Ms. Theuriau, though very pretty, isn’t even as lovely as Campbell Brown…Draw your pistol, and I’ll see you at sunrise. [/QUOTE] **Skald** , your love is given to the Evening newsreader, but my heart is ever unto the Morning newsreader. I shall await thee. Bring beer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-great-beauty/375369.md?page=4)