# A hearty Fuck You For the Rockies and MLB
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 22, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585 "2007-10-22T17:17:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/21 "2007-10-22T20:50:53Z")
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane]
21st Street from Market Street to Blake Street is closed as is Blake Street from 22nd Street to 20th Street due to heavy pedestrian traffic in the area around Coors Field.
[/QUOTE]
Charlie Montfort: The peasants are revolting.
Dick Montfort: They certainly are!
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### Author:  [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2007, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/22 "2007-10-22T22:12:29Z")
The teams give less than a shit about the fans, they just sell the tickets to whoever buys em, and that’s that. They know they’re complicit in the buggery of the fans, and they don’t care, because their margins are hit as soon as the tickets are sold.
I would challenge any single sports franchise that says they “care” about their fans to take their ticketing back and not sell them online at all. Sell them at the only place you could get them 10 years ago; at the park. I’m NOT saying ticketmaster, but I AM saying true fans would make the trip to get the tickets, and they’d hit the margins anyway. It sounds backwards, but it’s the only way to cut the brokers out of the deal.
And still, Fuck StubHub sideways. When California slides into the ocean, I hope the SH offices float and burn to ashes before they sink, fuckers.
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### Author:  [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/23 "2007-10-22T22:57:40Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Actually the MLB has brokered some sort of deal with StubHub. I can’t find the details, maybe someone else can dig them up.
[/QUOTE]
[Here’s an article](http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/08/02/mlb_stubhub_ink_resale_deal/)
> [@](#):
>
> Major League Baseball is jumping into the fast-growing ticket resale business in a big way, entering into a five-year partnership today with StubHub Inc. to handle all of the league’s online ticket resales.
>
> The deal, which is scheduled to launch next season, shows how the once separate worlds of initial ticket sales and ticket resales are merging.
>
> San Francisco-based StubHub will gain exclusive access to fans seeking to resell tickets through team websites, and Major League Baseball will unify those resales under one corporate umbrella. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
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### Author:  [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)
#### Post date: [October 22, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/24 "2007-10-22T23:10:03Z")
Well, shit, then, why don’t they just cut out the middle man and sell the tickets at auction in the first place?
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### Author:  [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/25 "2007-10-23T00:03:29Z")
I’m glad this thread has been posted. I was one of the bastards trying to get tickets, although I was planning to spend a gazillion dollars to fly out to Denver to actually see the game with my Denver buddies. I actually got the “Countdown” web page once. I was screwing around with several different computers and several different browsers. I could see that something was awry when the web page only showed two of the three possible games. I kept on trying for about 45 minutes. I assumed that all the tickets would have been sold out by that time so I gave up. I’m glad that I did.
My friends in Denver must be livid. I agree that they should just sell tickets in person at the ball park.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/26 "2007-10-23T00:25:07Z")
I agree. In fact, I would go farther and say that all tickets should be sold at the ball park. Or that you can call or order online but that you have to pick them up at Will Call. That would help keep scalping down some (a hard cap on ticket amounts would help too) and make sure that people in the Denver area have a chance to actually go to the game.
Baseball is probably the only game where I’d want to see a championship game played in person. Football is just fine on TV, but baseball is just so much better in person, with a scorecard in hand and the radio broadcast in one ear.
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### Author:  [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/27 "2007-10-23T02:43:43Z")
I personally am tired of refreshing the page a gazillion times! The following bash script will send you an e-mail when one of the rockies ticket servers changes. It doesn’t do anything nefarious, just checks to see if the sizes of one of the pages changes, and let’s you know. Sometimes they may tweak a page size, but no substantial content changes. In that case, just add the value it prints as a parameter to the large size test.
```auto
echo "Check tix" > tickets.txt
while `true`;
do
for server in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15;
do
url="http://ev${server}.evenue.net/evenue/linkID=rockies-st/se/"
echo Url: $url
size=`wget --wait=10 --random-wait --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0" --quiet --tries=1 "$url" -O- | wc -c | tr -d " "`;
echo Server: $server Size: $size
if ["$size" != 9497 -a "$size" != 5336 -a "$size" != 0 -a "$size" != 5361];then
mail -s "Check server http://ev${server}.evenue.net/evenue/linkID=rockies-st/se/ rockies-tix" your-email@address.com < tickets.txt;
fi
done
done
```
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### Author:  [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/28 "2007-10-23T03:01:05Z")
They are attributing it to “an external malicious attack.” lol
[http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/mlb/article/0,2777,DRMN\_23924\_5728937,00.html](http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/mlb/article/0,2777,DRMN_23924_5728937,00.html)
Would that attack be 8.5 million baseball fans hammering their servers? 😃
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/29 "2007-10-23T03:14:05Z")
[QUOTE=alterego]
They are attributing it to “an external malicious attack.” lol
[http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/mlb/article/0,2777,DRMN\_23924\_5728937,00.html](http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/mlb/article/0,2777,DRMN_23924_5728937,00.html)
Would that attack be 8.5 million baseball fans hammering their servers? 😃
[/QUOTE]
Never explain a DDOS caused by people legitimately wanting your product as a lack of server capacity when you can spin it as a malicious attack.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/30 "2007-10-23T18:00:52Z")
**yancey**? **Lamar**?
Got your clicking fingers ready? Sales start again in four minutes.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/31 "2007-10-23T18:02:33Z")
[QUOTE=alterego]
They are attributing it to “an external malicious attack.”
[/QUOTE]
I’m curious if they would count a script such as yours as “an external malicious attack”? They’ve said they banned IPs with multiple requests.
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### Author:  [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/32 "2007-10-23T18:37:05Z")
This chick is toast!
(It appears their servers are still struggling. Color me stunned.)
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/33 "2007-10-23T18:39:59Z")
[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso]
(It appears their servers are still struggling. Color me stunned.)
[/QUOTE]
I’m watching a stream from Channel 4, where they’ve got three or four computers trying to connect, and one computer has actually (allegedly) reserved tickets, but the lady has to create an account. The tension is killing me.
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### Author:  [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/34 "2007-10-23T18:42:29Z")
[QUOTE=Frank]
I’m watching a stream from Channel 4, where they’ve got three or four computers trying to connect, and one computer has actually (allegedly) reserved tickets, but the lady has to create an account. The tension is killing me.
[/QUOTE]
200+ channels at our disposal through the miracles of satellite and cable these days, and one of our finest is spending his time watching someone buy tickets on a computer. :smack: 😉
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### Author:  [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/35 "2007-10-23T18:45:59Z")
I’m still trying to get tickets. How long do you think I should keep trying? Is there anyway to tell when they are sold out?
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/36 "2007-10-23T18:46:35Z")
She just timed out! After she entered in all her info!
[QUOTE=Asimovian]
200+ channels at our disposal through the miracles of satellite and cable these days, and one of our finest is spending his time watching someone buy tickets on a computer. :smack: 😉
[/QUOTE]
😃 Nonsense; I’m multi-tasking. I’ve got music on, I’m browsing the SDMB, and job sites, and looking out my window. (It’s raining, by the way.)
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### Author:  [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/37 "2007-10-23T18:47:09Z")
[QUOTE=Frank]
**yancey**? **Lamar**?
Got your clicking fingers ready? Sales start again in four minutes.
[/QUOTE]
No luck here. Twice at the end of the countdown I have been redirected to a new page, but it hangs there.
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### Author:  [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/38 "2007-10-23T19:03:20Z")
No luck here either. I have run through the two minute countdown on about fifeteen times, and then I get the server error page.
The latest presser said that sales are going, but slowly. No one is getting in.
the big back up plan, evidently was to change your wait time from one minute to two minutes.
Fucking morans.
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### Author:  [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/39 "2007-10-23T19:03:27Z")
fuuuuuuck\*Rockies Spokesperson Jay Alves announced just after 12:30 p.m. that [ticket sales started slowly, but are picking up](http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=79563). He says they are selling slower than expected.\*No shit. “Connection was reset.” That’ll fucking put a damper on sales all right.
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### Author:  [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-hearty-fuck-you-for-the-rockies-and-mlb/423585/40 "2007-10-23T19:07:34Z")
[QUOTE=Frank]
I’m curious if they would count a script such as yours as “an external malicious attack”? They’ve said they banned IPs with multiple requests.
[/QUOTE]
They banned the first IP I used before I added the --random-wait option to wget, but after I added that, they didn’t ban me 😉
> [@man wget](#):
>
> –random-wait
> Some web sites may perform log analysis to identify retrieval programs such as Wget by looking for statistically significant similarities in the time between requests. This option causes the time between requests to vary between 0.5 and 1.5 \* wait seconds, where wait was specified using the --wait option, in order to mask Wget’s presence from such analysis.
>
> ```
> A 2001 article in a publication devoted to development on a popular consumer platform provided code to perform this analysis on the fly. Its author suggested blocking at the class C address level to ensure automated retrieval programs were blocked despite changing DHCP-supplied addresses.
>
> The --random-wait option was inspired by this ill-advised recommendation to block many unrelated users from a web site due to the actions of one.
>
> ```
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