# A huge and mostly overlooked development: the collapse of the "evangelical" voting bloc

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-huge-and-mostly-overlooked-development-the-collapse-of-the-evangelical-voting-bloc/747970>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 5, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-huge-and-mostly-overlooked-development-the-collapse-of-the-evangelical-voting-bloc/747970 "2016-03-05T00:05:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-huge-and-mostly-overlooked-development-the-collapse-of-the-evangelical-voting-bloc/747970/61 "2016-03-10T18:40:08Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> I’m not quite sure whether this is just a rhetorical question or not.
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> But there is considerable Biblical support for an anti-union stance **as unions are now** –not as they were historically, when they actually did good work in fighting for safe work conditions and so forth.
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> There are numerous verses that warn against greed and covetousness. One of the more interesting ones is Luke 3:14 (talking about John the Baptist)–  
> “And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and **be content with your wages**.”  
> (emphasis added)
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> There is also a certain amount of Biblical support for capitalism. II Thessalonians 3:10–  
> “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”

I don’t find this post very convincing, but I applaud you for making an attempt to argue this point (and no, I am not being facetious).

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-huge-and-mostly-overlooked-development-the-collapse-of-the-evangelical-voting-bloc/747970/62 "2016-03-10T18:41:43Z")

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Nice list, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-huge-and-mostly-overlooked-development-the-collapse-of-the-evangelical-voting-bloc/747970/63 "2016-03-10T19:29:32Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> I believe the Republican base wants to be told “You’re right to be frightened. You should be frightened. But I will save you.”

As does the Democratic base. As demonstrated by Biden’s comment about the GOP wanting to put people back in chains with regard to Wall Street. He’s telling the crowd, “This scary thing is going to happen and hurt you. The Democrats will save you.”

People are more motivated by fear than positivity. Politicians figured this out long ago and use it against us.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-huge-and-mostly-overlooked-development-the-collapse-of-the-evangelical-voting-bloc/747970/64 "2016-03-10T20:48:03Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> As does the Democratic base. As demonstrated by Biden’s comment about the GOP wanting to put people back in chains with regard to Wall Street. He’s telling the crowd, “This scary thing is going to happen and hurt you. The Democrats will save you.”

The difference is that the scary things Dems talk about are far more likely to be, you know, real. E.g., Wall Street ain’t gonna chain us up literally, but it ain’t a strained metaphor, neither.

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