# A Klingon Christmas Carol

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 10, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602 "2010-12-10T00:14:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/1 "2010-12-10T00:14:39Z")

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“Scrooge has no honor, nor any courage. Can three ghosts help him to become the true warrior he ought to be in time to save Tiny Tim from a horrible fate? Performed in the Original Klingon with English Supertitles, and narrative analysis from The Vulcan Institute of Cultural Anthropology.”

[http://www.cbtheatre.org/Klingon-Xmas-Carol.html](http://www.cbtheatre.org/Klingon-Xmas-Carol.html)

If I lived in the upper Midwest, I would so go see this. I never realized how much ‘Scrooge’ sounds like a Klingon name (though it should be spelled ‘Skruug’ or something like that).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/2 "2010-12-10T01:44:05Z")

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To a Klingon, wouldn’t “saving” Tiny Tim involve challenging him to a duel to give him an Honorable Death?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/3 "2010-12-10T03:33:30Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> To a Klingon, wouldn’t “saving” Tiny Tim involve challenging him to a duel to give him an Honorable Death?

It’s confusing. Klingons will save other Klingons from a wasted death. It doesn’t always seem that changing that into an honorable death is always the method, although the rhetoric that is used in those times when it is shown onscreen seems to indicate that it would have to be.

IN other words, it does seem that there are times when saving someone’s life seems to be honorable.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/4 "2010-12-10T15:30:07Z")

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Wait a second, isn’t being crippled something to be ashamed of in Klingon society? How does Skruug save Tiny Tim? Kill him honorably?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/5 "2010-12-10T19:36:27Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Wait a second, isn’t being crippled something to be ashamed of in Klingon society? How does Skruug save Tiny Tim? Kill him honorably?

Yes. Before then, Skruug was too miserly with his disruptor charges.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/6 "2010-12-10T20:51:03Z")

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I’m picturing a sort of reverse Christmas Carol, where Skruug is a miserable pariah because he is kind and generous, and treats his employees nicely. Then the three spirits show him the error of his ways. He gets up Christmas morning, calls Kraaget into work (even though he had previously promised the day off) and beats him. After that, he goes down to Kraaget’s home and shoots Mach Tiim, because he’s a cripple, and has been bringing shame to his business.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/7 "2010-12-10T21:04:18Z")

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I can see the Warrior of Christmas Yet to Come showing Skruug a future where he’s wearing a cardigan sweater, smoking a pipe, and reading the paper.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/8 "2010-12-11T01:02:42Z")

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…And as Tiny TimH said as Skruug snapped his neck “Kahless ble-urk!”

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**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/9 "2010-12-13T16:43:55Z")

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I offered to take **Mrs. R** to this, but somehow a trip to Chicago in the middle of the winter doesn’t appeal to her 😉

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/10 "2010-12-14T03:20:15Z")

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Sucks to be living on the East Coast right now. Definitely gonna pencil this one in for next year.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-klingon-christmas-carol/563602/11 "2010-12-14T03:26:31Z")

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It’s actually playing currently in Chicago as well, at the Greenhouse Theatre on Lincoln Avenue.
