# A lesson from recent history:  Howard Dean is the new George McGovern.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lesson-from-recent-history-howard-dean-is-the-new-george-mcgovern/199342>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 3, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lesson-from-recent-history-howard-dean-is-the-new-george-mcgovern/199342 "2003-09-03T16:25:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![AmericanMaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AmericanMaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmericanMaid)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lesson-from-recent-history-howard-dean-is-the-new-george-mcgovern/199342/81 "2003-09-08T16:08:15Z")

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Dean is the only candidate that has me excited for 2004. In fact, my excitement helped introduce a co-worker to Dean and now she is contributing to his campaign! As a supporter, I totally agree with Eve. He needs coaching or a stiff drink right before going on-camera. If he could get Gephardt as VP, that could be a winning ticket. Gephardt has union support and is a Washington vet.

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**Author:** ![GOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@GOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GOM)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lesson-from-recent-history-howard-dean-is-the-new-george-mcgovern/199342/82 "2003-09-08T16:10:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
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> Sad to say, no matter how good you are, you will never win an election in this day and age w/o being telegenic. \*\*

Very good point.

Also, Dean was just out here in CA making a fool out of himself trying to defend our bizarre governor. I guess it was a ploy to win delegates…

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**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lesson-from-recent-history-howard-dean-is-the-new-george-mcgovern/199342/83 "2003-09-09T02:46:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\*I saw Dean on two TV shows this morning, and he is _never_ going to win anything till he hires a coach to loosen him up on camera! So wooden he makes Gore look like Jim Carrey.  
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Actually that was probably an improvement over his earlier TV appearances.

He does great when he is giving a speech, but appearances like that definately need work.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lesson-from-recent-history-howard-dean-is-the-new-george-mcgovern/199342/84 "2003-09-09T03:57:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> I saw Dean on two TV shows this morning, and he is _never_ going to win anything till he hires a coach to loosen him up on camera! So wooden he makes Gore look like Jim Carrey.

Could be seen as an asset this time. Consider what the electorate knows about Bush, now - I don’t expect as many decisions to be made on the basis of personal likability this time.

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