# A lot of women are coming forward with rape accusations against Bill Cosby.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093 "2014-11-19T17:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/221 "2014-11-23T05:06:19Z")
From [http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/11/21/lou-ferrigno-wife-carla-ferrigno-latest-to-accuse-bill-cosby-assault/](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/11/21/lou-ferrigno-wife-carla-ferrigno-latest-to-accuse-bill-cosby-assault/). “One time, I remember just before I passed out, I remember him kissing and touching me and I remember the taste of his cigar on his breath, and I didn’t like it,” Hill said. “I remember\*\* another time\*\* when I woke up in my bed the next day and he was leaving, he mentioned you should probably lose a little weight. I thought that odd, how would he know that?” Must have been a horrible experience the first time. Now, maybe it happened. But does going back again make sense? Just because this claim was made, does not automatically make it true. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/222 "2014-11-23T11:55:30Z")
Thanks! Now I just need to translate the recipe to UK names… Dunno what Napa cabbage is here for starters. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/223 "2014-11-23T12:18:37Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Thanks! > > Now I just need to translate the recipe to UK names… Dunno what Napa cabbage is here for starters. Chinese leaf. It looks kind of like paler frillier bok choy. [Napa cabbage - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napa_cabbage) ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/224 "2014-11-23T16:05:33Z")
Anyone here have experience with growing dandelion greens? Is it easy, hard? What’s the best way to prepare them for cooking and/or salad? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/225 "2014-11-23T16:22:14Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > How about the first step — believe women who say this has happened to them and at the very least take personal steps to isolate or censure those men. Sorry but no, i think that is a horrible mindset. Accusations don’t make someone a rapist, and i am not willing to make rape a special case were innocent until proven guilty doesn’t apply. Burden of proof always is and always should be on the accuser. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/226 "2014-11-23T16:27:25Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Sorry but no, i think that is a horrible mindset. Accusations don’t make someone a rapist, and i am not willing to make rape a special case were innocent until proven guilty doesn’t apply. Burden of proof always is and always should be on the accuser. If you are not in a court of law, innocent until proven guilty is irrelevant. You don’t apply that standard in your every day life. You know very well you don’t. If someone comes to you with accusations against someone else, you don’t demand legal levels of proof to make ordinary judgments about people. You evaluate what people say depending on the circumstances and whether they are believable. This is exactly the situation Cosby is in now. He’s not in court, so he’s not entitled to legal levels of proof. What is at stake is what people think of him, and the evidence we have already is plenty good for that. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/227 "2014-11-23T16:29:36Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Sheesh, this is a perfectly serious thread, and you have to drop a steaming turd like that in it? :mad: You must have been confusing it with [del]hot carl[/del] hakarl, whose name is very close to a steam[del]er[/del]y act with a turd. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/228 "2014-11-23T16:31:04Z")
I don’t like Cosby in the first place, and i tend not to think of him. But i’m not going to think of him as “the rapist Bill Cosby” if he hasn’t been convicted of rape. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/229 "2014-11-23T16:44:11Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Thanks! > > Now I just need to translate the recipe to UK names… Dunno what Napa cabbage is here for starters. There are also kimchis made with daikon/Chinese radishes, cucumbers, mustard leaves, and some other vegetables, although the cabbage ones are the most well known. So you can always try some of those out, too. Plain ol’ bok choy (or however you want to spell it) should work fine, too, I’d think. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/230 "2014-11-23T16:57:51Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Anyone here have experience with growing dandelion greens? Is it easy, hard? What’s the best way to prepare them for cooking and/or salad? Dandelion? Heck, it grows like a weed! 😃 Seriously, super easy to grow. And yes, I have grown it on purpose. The early spring leaves are the smallest and least bitter, and fantastic raw on salads. The older leaves are more bitter - but they’re never super bitter, so if you’re from a culture that regularly eats or drinks bitter things, dandelion will be nothing outlandish. If bitter had a scale like hot does, mature dandelions would rank for bitter about where jalapenos do for heat. You can cook the leaves at any stage in any way you’d cook spinach. Sauteed with garlic and onion and finished with a spoonful of Boursin cheese is my favorite (also my favorite way to cook stinging nettles.) The leaves can just be rinsed and patted dry with a tea towel or spun in a salad spinner. Pick ones from an area you are fairly certain hasn’t been sprayed for weeds. You can usually tell if a yard hasn’t been sprayed because there will be dandelions growing there. Duh. The yellow flowers can be cleaned by putting them in a large bowl of ice water to soak for 15 minutes or so as the sand falls to the bottom. Skim off the flowers and let them dry a bit and then batter and fry them like you would mushrooms. OMG good. The roots can be dried, roasted and ground into something that makes a not entirely terrible coffee substitute. Warnings: dandelion leaf is a diuretic, so if you’re on diuretics already, watch yourself. Too much of a good thing and you may feel dizzy or your blood pressure may drop too much. Also, they’re high in potassium, so if your doctor has told you not to use salt substitute or otherwise restrict your potassium intake, pass on the dandelion leaf. The flowers and roots should still be okay, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/231 "2014-11-24T08:25:06Z")
What a timely reminder. The Rolling Stones have just visited NZ and here is one of my favourite tunes from them: Dandelion. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOvAxu8D18g) ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/232 "2014-11-24T16:36:05Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > You think just cuz a lady likes peas it means she’s asking for it? :dubious: It does make her more ap-pea-ling. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@Fallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fallen)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/233 "2014-11-24T16:44:10Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Think of how much faster you could post if you’d use the quote button. Sometimes I can just highlight and copy-paste, when the “quote” feature won’t cooperate with my browser and such. (I get the impression you concluded that I retyped the quote, though it’s unclear why.) ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/234 "2014-11-24T17:48:56Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Dandelion? Heck, it grows like a weed! 😃 > > Seriously, super easy to grow. And yes, I have grown it on purpose. The early spring leaves are the smallest and least bitter, and fantastic raw on salads. The older leaves are more bitter - but they’re never super bitter, so if you’re from a culture that regularly eats or drinks bitter things, dandelion will be nothing outlandish. If bitter had a scale like hot does, mature dandelions would rank for bitter about where jalapenos do for heat. > > You can cook the leaves at any stage in any way you’d cook spinach. Sauteed with garlic and onion and finished with a spoonful of Boursin cheese is my favorite (also my favorite way to cook stinging nettles.) > > The leaves can just be rinsed and patted dry with a tea towel or spun in a salad spinner. Pick ones from an area you are fairly certain hasn’t been sprayed for weeds. You can usually tell if a yard hasn’t been sprayed because there will be dandelions growing there. Duh. > > The yellow flowers can be cleaned by putting them in a large bowl of ice water to soak for 15 minutes or so as the sand falls to the bottom. Skim off the flowers and let them dry a bit and then batter and fry them like you would mushrooms. OMG good. > > The roots can be dried, roasted and ground into something that makes a not entirely terrible coffee substitute. > > Warnings: dandelion leaf is a diuretic, so if you’re on diuretics already, watch yourself. Too much of a good thing and you may feel dizzy or your blood pressure may drop too much. Also, they’re high in potassium, so if your doctor has told you not to use salt substitute or otherwise restrict your potassium intake, pass on the dandelion leaf. The flowers and roots should still be okay, though. Awesome rundown. Thanks much! ---
**Author:** ![Deser2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Deser2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deser2)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/235 "2014-11-26T18:03:22Z")
I apologize in advance for the slight kimchi and colesole debate derail… With that said, to those who are saying the women’s account is not evidence, you’re absolutely wrong. Even more wrong is the person who said that without supporting evidence (DNA, photographs, etc) the accounts are useless. At least in NY, when you serve on a jury, there are specific instructions read by the judge that address this completely. Summarized, it basically says that eye-witness accounts (including those of victims) count just as heavily evidence-wise as DNA, fingerprints etc. It is up to the jurors to determine whether the eye-witness is credible and they can either believe or disbelieve the statements in part or in totality. In fact, during jury selection, many of us were specifically asked by the prosecutors whether the juror could find someone guilty based solely on eye-witness accounts without other supporting evidence like DNA, fingerprints, etc. So really it becomes solely a matter of “Do I believe these women?” considering the lack of physical evidence. Also, I find it great that this thread has attracted both sides of the spectrum - the OP as the complete rapist sympathizer/denier and Fallen who seems to believe every man is a rapist lurking in the shadows just waiting for the next pussy to fuck… ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/236 "2014-11-28T02:32:58Z")
Joan Collins says her first husband, before they were married, drugged her and raped her, taking her virginity. She married him after this, out of shame, she says. > **[Videos](https://www.huffpost.com/section/video)** > > The latest breaking news video and visual storytelling from HuffPost. Lesson: always marry your victim after you drug her and rape her. (And Cosby worked in Vegas a lot, where it’s easy to get hitched.) ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/237 "2014-11-28T02:37:29Z")
Just got to add this. From the Pit page where this appeared. **A lot of women are coming… Belowjob 2.0** Now, at first glance… ---
**Author:** ![kstarnes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kstarnes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kstarnes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/238 "2014-11-28T02:51:20Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Joan Collins says her first husband, before they were married, drugged her and raped her, taking her virginity. She married him after this, out of shame, she says. > > [Videos](http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/5475f7a32b8c2a129b00072a?cps=gravity) > > Lesson: always marry your victim after you drug her and rape her. (And Cosby worked in Vegas a lot, where it’s easy to get hitched.) Or, maybe she’s a liar. With Joan Collin, it’s more probable than usual… ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/239 "2014-11-28T02:55:27Z")
> [@kstarnes](#): > > Or, maybe she’s a liar. With Joan Collin, it’s more probable than usual… Yeah, they’re all liars. Every single one of them. ---
**Author:** ![kstarnes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kstarnes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kstarnes)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/240 "2014-11-28T03:10:22Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Yeah, they’re all liars. Every single one of them. No, not every single one of them… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093.md?page=13)