# A lot of women are coming forward with rape accusations against Bill Cosby.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093 "2014-11-19T17:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/301 "2015-12-30T20:00:52Z")
Oh, hey - I wondered where **Jack** had been lately. What a _shock_ to find him here, practicing his own unique brand of dickishness. Where there’s a woman to cast slurs upon, rest assured we’ll find **Jack**. Like Superman and crime, only the asshole version. ---
**Author:** ![lalaith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@lalaith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lalaith)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/302 "2015-12-30T21:42:19Z")
> [@lalaith](#): > > They also have a lot more other victims. And from the news stories I’ve read, Pennsylvania allows testimony that establishes a pattern even when there was no crime charged in the other cases. (Of course, Cosby’s lawyers will be trying very hard to get the pattern testimony excluded.) If their testimony is allowed, this won’t be a he said-she said. It will be a he said-she said-she said-she said-she said, etc. From the Washington Post: “Under rules of evidence in Pennsylvania, prosecutors can introduce allegations brought by the other women if those allegations establish a mode of operation or pattern of behavior by Cosby.” [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/12/30/ap-report-bill-cosby-charged-in-sexual-assault-case/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/12/30/ap-report-bill-cosby-charged-in-sexual-assault-case/) And, wow, a million dollars bail (with 10% bond having to be paid). And he surrendered his passport. I wasn’t expecting such high bail for this kind of offense. Does bail change depending upon the financial status of the defendant? The idea being that a $25,000 bail is not an incentive for someone as rich as Cosby. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/303 "2015-12-30T21:59:56Z")
Yes. The modus operandi stuff is exceedingly difficult to bring in. It has to be extremely specific (“he gave me a glass of Chateau Briand '71 with what was later identified as GHB in it, then penetrated me anally” or whatever, versus “he spiked my drink and felt me up.”) ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/304 "2015-12-31T01:30:36Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yes. > > The modus operandi stuff is exceedingly difficult to bring in. It has to be extremely specific (“he gave me a glass of Chateau Briand '71 with what was later identified as GHB in it, then penetrated me anally” or whatever, versus “he spiked my drink and felt me up.”) Actually, without comment on any specifics of Pennsylvania, I am not sure I agree. We’re not too far removed from the old “lustful disposition” 404(b) evidence that seemed to equate any prior sex offense with any instant sex offense. In my view, it’s enough to be able to say, “Quaaludes, wine, invite to his private room, said he’d help my career,” and have the allegations pass the 404(b) test. I think he’d have some chance in arguing that the prejudice outweighs the probative, but in my opinion these are specific enough to get in as prior bad acts offered to show a common plan, scheme, or motive. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/305 "2015-12-31T01:34:48Z")
I heard on tonight’s news that one woman was “urged” by him to take some pills. Since people generally don’t just take pills that are handed to them in someone’s house without knowing what they are, I wonder what was really meant by “urged”. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/306 "2015-12-31T01:44:45Z")
We’ve heard a version of that story several times. If the woman was feeling unwell, he told her that it was medicine. Other times he said it was something to help her relax or have fun. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/307 "2015-12-31T06:09:39Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > We’ve heard a version of that story several times. If the woman was feeling unwell, he told her that it was medicine. Other times he said it was something to help her relax or have fun. That makes more sense. Now that you mention that, I’ve heard it too. ---
**Author:** ![lalaith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@lalaith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lalaith)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/308 "2016-01-12T20:46:58Z")
Most informative piece I’ve read so far when it comes to analyzing the case… [http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/opinions/holloway-cosby-case-how-strong/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/opinions/holloway-cosby-case-how-strong/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/309 "2016-01-12T22:02:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Actually, without comment on any specifics of Pennsylvania, I am not sure I agree. We’re not too far removed from the old “lustful disposition” 404(b) evidence that seemed to equate any prior sex offense with any instant sex offense. > > In my view, it’s enough to be able to say, “Quaaludes, wine, invite to his private room, said he’d help my career,” and have the allegations pass the 404(b) test. True, but I would say your example is closer to “he gave me a glass of Chateau Briand '71 with what was later identified as GHB in it, then penetrated me anally” than to “he spiked my drink and felt me up.” I haven’t been following the facts of the Cosby case closely enough to know how similar the accusations are, except that they all involve drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/310 "2016-01-12T22:11:46Z")
\*mumbles something about Chateaubriand being a steak dish, not a drink. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/311 "2016-01-12T22:30:16Z")
Chateau Briand is also a Bordeaux wine. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/312 "2016-01-13T01:03:45Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Chateau Briand is also a Bordeaux wine. Fucking well is not. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/313 "2016-01-13T01:10:07Z")
[Fucking well is.](http://meinuowine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Chateau-Briand-2007-%E7%99%BE%E5%88%A9%E6%B0%B8%E9%85%92%E5%BA%84%E7%BA%A2%E8%91%A1%E8%90%84-.jpg) And it’s got cigar ox aromas, too! Moo. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/314 "2016-01-13T01:14:14Z")
Jesus wept. What a stupid fucking name for a Bordeaux. Even one that retails under US$15. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/315 "2016-01-13T06:37:17Z")
Well, bugger me. Not an invitation ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/316 "2016-01-13T15:16:46Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Jesus wept. What a stupid fucking name for a Bordeaux. Even one that retails under US$15. Your point, for the record, was well-taken. Next time I’ll use Montrachet. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/317 "2016-01-13T15:23:54Z")
Could you one-percenters go rent a banquet hall or something? This thread is about Cosby. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/318 "2016-01-13T15:31:28Z")
Fine. Which goes better with quaaludes, Bordeaux or Burgundy? Discuss, my one-percenters, discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/319 "2016-01-13T15:34:36Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Could you one-percenters go rent a banquet hall or something? This thread is about Cosby. Sorry, dear fellow, but can that wait until after the brandy and cigars? One simply mustn’t rush the good things in life. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093/320 "2016-01-13T15:35:54Z")
Tibbetts, bring my _special_ H. Uppmans, would you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-lot-of-women-are-coming-forward-with-rape-accusations-against-bill-cosby/705093.md?page=15)