# A man is a testosterone damaged woman **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 4, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742 "2017-08-04T02:56:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/21 "2017-08-04T20:37:51Z")
Well, _something_ made me into an asshole, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/22 "2017-08-04T20:59:02Z")
Damaged is an emotionally loaded word. Influenced or modified would be less controversial. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/23 "2017-08-06T00:47:36Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Testosterone certainly causes some problems in some contexts. But in other contexts, it helps. And I’m not sure how meaningful it is to claim that males are a variant on a basic female template: It’s like asking whether zebras are white with black stripes or black with white stripes. Well, technically, it is true that from a developmental standpoint, female is the default. If an XY person has androgen insensitivity, the person will be born looking female. Also, the few weeks that are spent diverging to develop as male mean that newborn boys are more vulnerable than newborn girls. I learned that as a candystriper in maternity, and it was confirmed by my OB when I was pregnant. It’s the reason, that, according to my OB, there are 105 boys conceived for every 100 girls, but only 97 boys born for every 100 girls, and more boys die in their first 5 years. But I have no opinion about loaded words like “damaged.” ---
**Author:** ![Murph1111](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@Murph1111](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murph1111)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/24 "2017-08-06T02:45:21Z")
For thousands of years, men have lived with the derangement caused by female hormones. Turnabout is fair play. ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/25 "2017-08-07T00:56:10Z")
> [@StreetFighter2Ryu](#): > > What do you all think about this? 1. I think i can write an article claiming probably anything, and because it goes in the internet, it must be true 2. I now have a valid excuse for being an asshole, thanks! 😃 3. If it wasn’t for mister damaged man, Proto Human Female #1 would have been a one off model. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/26 "2017-08-07T14:44:56Z")
> [@](#): > > The problem with men, as a group, as a type of organism, as a subset of humans, Well, my first impression was that the author only _grudgingly_ sees men as human. 🙂 > [@](#): > > Even when we try to reduce the male-female difference as a society, men who do not willingly participate in that often end up being fairly nasty, dangerous beasts; they may be rapists, they may be batterers, they may be some other thing. (My underline) This sounds a lot like the “those who don’t agree with me are evil” thinking that masquerades for political policy making these days. With the delicious irony that the underlined statement sorta “walks back” the first part I quoted. > [@](#): > > Greg Laden is a biological anthropologist and science communicator. More like “science communicator fail”. ---
**Author:** ![StreetFighter2Ryu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@StreetFighter2Ryu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StreetFighter2Ryu)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/27 "2017-08-08T01:57:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Testosterone certainly causes some problems in some contexts. But in other contexts, it helps. And I’m not sure how meaningful it is to claim that males are a variant on a basic female template: It’s like asking **whether zebras are white with black stripes or black with white stripes**. Sorry, but now that you’ve brought it up, I’m curious what the answer to that question is. Are they white with black stripes or or are they black with white stripes? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/28 "2017-08-08T02:16:40Z")
> [@StreetFighter2Ryu](#): > > Sorry, but now that you’ve brought it up, I’m curious what the answer to that question is. Are they white with black stripes or or are they black with white stripes? Black with [white stripes](http://www.globalanimal.org/2016/03/28/striped-yes-but-are-they-really-black-and-white/). ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/29 "2017-08-08T02:17:55Z")
> [@StreetFighter2Ryu](#): > > So, Testosterone damages a man and makes him an asshole? It amazes me how people can come up with crap like this and call it “science”. What do you all think about this? I think Ron White said it best: You can’t fix stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/30 "2017-08-08T06:28:42Z")
> [@StreetFighter2Ryu](#): > > Sorry, but now that you’ve brought it up, I’m curious what the answer to that question is. Are they white with black stripes or or are they black with white stripes? [hijack] [They’re clear with black and white stripes.](http://shaggy-dogs.briancombs.net/frank-buck/) [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-man-is-a-testosterone-damaged-woman/792742/31 "2017-08-08T14:18:21Z")
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