# A man's worst enemy in the dating world is another man, do you agree with this writer? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 3, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750 "2013-04-03T18:14:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/21 "2013-04-03T20:20:43Z")
Women aren’t stupid. If I’m flirting with a girl and another guy decides to a) flirt also and win her on his own merits, b) go hypermacho and out of his way to exert his alpha male dominance or c) be subversive and try to undermine my credibility, women will pick up on it. Whatever the outcome, it’s not because of that guy’s actions but the woman’s choice. It’s like saying the greatest enemy for you at the poker table are other cards. Or the greatest enemy of you getting skin cancer is cloud coverage. A spurious and stupid argument. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/22 "2013-04-03T20:22:32Z")
> [@Curious\_Man](#): > > I have seen guys discourage other men from talking to women and tell them lies. It makes sense. Men want to cockblock other men to decrease the competition. Sounds like your friends are jerks. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/23 "2013-04-03T20:48:03Z")
> [@colander](#): > > vagina wasps Last year I found a large green caterpillar. A wasp had stung it to paralyze it, and she’d laid her eggs all over it. I knew that when the eggs hatched, the larvae would burrow into the host and devour it from the inside out. Anyway, my legs are crossed and I’m terrified of sleep. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/24 "2013-04-03T20:58:19Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Sounds like your friends are jerks. Well… back in days of old, when I was single, I’d unabashedly cock-block some other random guy at a bar if he was trying to compete with me for some girl. However, friends were off limits for the most part- we didn’t necessarily yield to the other guy, but nor did we fight dirty, so to speak. That’s not what the OP’s article is getting at though; it’s some sort of strange thing that basically says that since women like other men better than you because you’re asian, ugly, goofy, etc… then they’re your worst enemy. Which is patently stupid, as we all know. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/25 "2013-04-03T21:03:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Last year I found a large green caterpillar. A wasp had stung it to paralyze it, and she’d laid her eggs all over it. I knew that when the eggs hatched, the larvae would burrow into the host and devour it from the inside out. > > Anyway, my legs are crossed and I’m terrified of sleep. You have good reason to fear. From “The Killing Buzz”, an information brochure published by the Northeast Atlantic Vagina Wasp Awareness Foundation, which I keep by the side of my bed and peruse evenings: > [@](#): > > Recent research indicates that as many as two out of every three blonde white women’s vaginas are heavily infested with the larvae of _Evagetes nelvestris_. Although known variously as silver bees, hole bees, munt fludgers and sting-dongers, most English-language speakers call them by their most unsettling moniker: vagina wasps. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/26 "2013-04-03T21:18:49Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > If you think there are “enemies” when it comes to getting a girlfriend, you’re a paranoid, narcissistic idiot. Or her ex-boyfriend has just crashed though the front window in all-black full combat gear, waving an automatic weapon. That _does_ put a damper on your romantic evening together. Why smash through the window and not open the door? Because it’s more dramatic that way, naturally! ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/27 "2013-04-03T21:26:54Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Strongly disagree. > > Your strongest enemy in the dating world is yourself. This. Oh, and those guys who are talking to you to discourage you from trying your PUA skillz on the blonde chicks? There is a very good possibility that the guy has the full blessing from the female in question. If I’m out on the town with a group of friends, and some random dude inserts himself in my personal space and starts trying to put on the hard sell, you better believe that all it takes is a glance to one of my male friends for them to insert themselves between me and the dude to run interference. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/28 "2013-04-03T22:08:33Z")
> [@FaerieBeth](#): > > This. > > Oh, and those guys who are talking to you to discourage you from trying your PUA skillz on the blonde chicks? There is a very good possibility that the guy has the full blessing from the female in question. If I’m out on the town with a group of friends, and some random dude inserts himself in my personal space and starts trying to put on the hard sell, you better believe that all it takes is a glance to one of my male friends for them to insert themselves between me and the dude to run interference. I want to restate this and make it very clear. When I’ve been subjected to unwanted attention, all it takes is a “help me” glance to male friends or male strangers to get some help. Men, having been born of women, blessed with unequal strength, and often born with a sense of earnest heroism, will quickly defend an uneasy woman. Your intentions may have been honorable, but if she was unsettled by your attitude and actions, she may have silently asked for intervention. Don’t blame race, cock blocking, or any other blame shifting device. Maybe she just wasn’t feeling you. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/29 "2013-04-03T22:56:28Z")
Possibly the most retarded article I have seen in some time. It feels like he pulled a lot of it out of his ass. IRL men really do not go out of their way to be bitchy about other men trying to get some play. Re heterosexual men dating you take your shot and see what the results have to offer. Other men, even if they are hunting the same grounds usually focus on presenting thier best face, not dissing the other guys in some kind of “mean girls” psycho drama. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/30 "2013-04-03T23:20:02Z")
Not an article. A blog. And yes, completely pulled out of his ass. A loser asian guy who feels oppressed by the white man in his quest for white chicks. I hate it. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/31 "2013-04-03T23:33:26Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Possibly the most retarded article I have seen in some time. It feels like he pulled a lot of it out of his ass. IRL men really do not go out of their way to be bitchy about other men trying to get some play. > > Re heterosexual men dating you take your shot and see what the results have to offer. Other men, even if they are hunting the same grounds usually focus on presenting thier best face, not dissing the other guys in some kind of “mean girls” psycho drama. That is the part that doesn’t make any sense. Men just don’t do that type of thing enough to write an article on and the opposite is more true than what he says. Comedians have routines on this and people laugh because most people know its true. Groups of women often have a crab pot mentality going where they try to sabotage each other’s relationships if they don’t think they are winning the competition. That is why a good pick-up technique for men is to not hit on the most attractive girl in a group but instead give full attention to one just a notch below the hottest one because she will appreciate winning the contest. Men, even young ones, simply don’t do what he describes as a general rule. We help each other as soon as one gets a lead and will lie and cover to help give him an advantage whether it is a friend or not. It is just the Golden Rule in action. I have no idea where the author of this crap opinion piece is getting his information or what experiences he has had to back it up. I have never seen one guy try to dissuade another from hitting on someone because of deep-seating insecurities of his own. It simply doesn’t happen. He sounds like a gay man or an undercover woman trying write an opinion piece by imagining what issues heterosexual men must go through when trying to get a date and misses horribly. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/32 "2013-04-03T23:52:03Z")
> [@FaerieBeth](#): > > This. > > Oh, and those guys who are talking to you to discourage you from trying your PUA skillz on the blonde chicks? There is a very good possibility that the guy has the full blessing from the female in question. If I’m out on the town with a group of friends, and some random dude inserts himself in my personal space and starts trying to put on the hard sell, you better believe that all it takes is a glance to one of my male friends for them to insert themselves between me and the dude to run interference. Yep I have played that part many times and still do. I do remember in my younger days when out and about with a group of mixed friends we would decide who would pretend to be someones boyfriend if the need arose. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/33 "2013-04-03T23:52:51Z")
“Jesus is my cockblocker” ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/34 "2013-04-04T00:25:49Z")
> [@colander](#): > > no, it’s vagina wasps I think you meant to say “vagina centipedes.” It’s more likely than you think. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/35 "2013-04-04T00:52:40Z")
> [@11811](#): > > I think you meant to say “vagina centipedes.” It’s more likely than you think. Not anymore, my friend. ☹ Vagina centipedes have been on the endangered species list since the late 1990s, and since then, the situation has only grown more dire. Experts theorize that the precipitous drop in vagina centipede population is due to a combination of wasp predation and extreme crate fatigue. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/36 "2013-04-04T01:11:09Z")
Dude, you’re going about this all wrong. The journey is not seek love or affection. The journey is to seek to be worthy of love. PUA’s never can understand it, but I swear to you, it’s the truth! ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/37 "2013-04-04T01:13:19Z")
> [@11811](#): > > I think you meant to say “vagina centipedes.” It’s more likely than you think. This metric shit is finally starting to piss me off. ---
**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/38 "2013-04-04T01:19:03Z")
BS ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/39 "2013-04-04T01:20:44Z")
Looking at some of his other posts, this guy’s pretty heavily involved in the PUA scene. I have absolutely no problem believing that the people there really are this dysfunctional. Check out [http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/majority-of-people-do-not-want-to-see-you-succeed/](http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/majority-of-people-do-not-want-to-see-you-succeed/) for proof. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/40 "2013-04-04T01:28:15Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > Looking at some of his other posts, this guy’s pretty heavily involved in the PUA scene. I have absolutely no problem believing that the people there really are this dysfunctional. > > Check out [http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/majority-of-people-do-not-want-to-see-you-succeed/](http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/majority-of-people-do-not-want-to-see-you-succeed/) for proof. From that site: > [@](#): > > Your best option becomes to not voice your desire out loud to the public… Do not let anyone know of what you want to do. In fact, do not even let anyone know you want to be a player. **Curious Man**. ☹ y u no listen to webblog? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750.md?page=3)