# A man's worst enemy in the dating world is another man, do you agree with this writer? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 3, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750 "2013-04-03T18:14:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/41 "2013-04-04T03:33:44Z")
No doubt I’m out of date, married and a one-woman man for 25 years, nearly half my life. But it sounds like BS to me. Not that I was ever a “playa”. (I had to google PUA.) Frankly, I’d rather meet someone I like and let things develop naturally. The guys I knew would help, not block, and what would I care what some stranger thinks? Ladies, good point about “intentional pass interference”. I don’t remembering that ever happening to me, but I can also read a “no thanks” without it being spelled out. Back in the day, it was pretty much up to the guy to try to get things rolling, but it was definitely up to the lady to let it roll or not. The first part may no longer be true, but I bet the second still is. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/42 "2013-04-04T04:48:03Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > That is the part that doesn’t make any sense. Men just don’t do that type of thing enough to write an article on and the opposite is more true than what he says. Comedians have routines on this and people laugh because most people know its true. Groups of women often have a crab pot mentality going where they try to sabotage each other’s relationships if they don’t think they are winning the competition. That is why a good pick-up technique for men is to not hit on the most attractive girl in a group but instead give full attention to one just a notch below the hottest one because she will appreciate winning the contest. Your totally-not-misogynistic understanding of women continues to impress. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/43 "2013-04-04T12:12:51Z")
Cockblocking exists or there weren’t be the term, _but_ this guy sounds like those people who are playing imaginary games in their heads. The funniest time I was ever cockblocked was when I was with a female friend at a bar to Tokyo. We were just chatting and a guy comes up, sort of between us, and starts to chat to me. Not your usual thing, but not really unthinkable so I answered his questions. Then another guy comes up and starts to talk to woman I was with. Aha! Cockblocked. I was going to tell her, but the guy had already ordered a drink for her, so I waited until it came to tell the guy that she’s gay. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/44 "2013-04-04T12:49:43Z")
Well, it’s at least refreshing to hear men being blamed for someone’s romantic failure, rather than the familiar refrain that women are to blame for being horrible people. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/45 "2013-04-04T12:54:45Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Men, even young ones, simply don’t do what he describes as a general rule. We help each other as soon as one gets a lead and will lie and cover to help give him an advantage whether it is a friend or not. It is just the Golden Rule in action. Exactly, with one exception - if you’re the guy with the lead, and some other guy starts trying to cut in, you and/or your buddies will generally cut him right back out. It’s kind of like right of first refusal in a sense. If nobody’s breaking that unwritten rule, then they and usually every other guy in the place will help you out. ---
**Author:** ![Saraya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Saraya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saraya)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/46 "2013-04-04T12:56:15Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Disagree. The worst enemy of the dating world is BFF of the woman you are trying to date. This..and overgrown high school girls who get free passes as ‘adults’ because they are at least 18, or wear big girl clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/47 "2013-04-04T13:04:22Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Strongly disagree. > > Your strongest enemy in the dating world is yourself. Yep, yourself … and maybe in some cases, Jack Daniels. It seems in this case of this blogger it couldn’t be any more true. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/48 "2013-04-04T13:08:08Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > Is there anyone men who can’t get dates WON’T blame for their predicament? Yep, the guy who wrote the article is a whiny baby who can’t deal with a little compitition. I wonder why he can’t get a date? > [@colander](#): > > no, it’s vagina wasps An example of another man making me not want to date, ever. Maybe the the writer is onto something. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/49 "2013-04-04T13:34:39Z")
What a load of crap. My hats off to some of you folks for being able to make it all the way through that stupid article. In my younger days, the only dating advice I ever got that worked has been from men. Just about any advice I’ve recieved from women has been feckless. I’m sure they didn’t intend it to be, but there you have it. ---
**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/50 "2013-04-04T15:30:20Z")
That post is ridiculous but not jaw-droppingly so. Figuring I could do better, I clicked around the site a bit and read through his argument about [why PUAs should vote for Republicans](http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/why-the-pua-community-should-lean-right/). Contained within is this attempt to forestall any objections: > [@](#): > > Now an argument could be made that Republicans want to endorse strict laws that would make it hard for a man to be a womanizer but how are Democrats any different? So while your WORST enemy might be another man, apparently rape laws are somewhere on that list as well. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/51 "2013-04-04T15:34:47Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > An example of another man making me not want to date, ever. Maybe the the writer is onto something. objection, your honor assumes wangs not in evidence ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/52 "2013-04-04T16:09:17Z")
> [@Mithras](#): > > That post is ridiculous but not jaw-droppingly so. Figuring I could do better, I clicked around the site a bit and read through his argument about [why PUAs should vote for Republicans](http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/why-the-pua-community-should-lean-right/). I’ve always said that the only thing wrong with the PUA movement is the people involved with it, and I think this goes a long way towards making that argument for me. ---
**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/53 "2013-04-04T21:14:31Z")
That post was the dumbest thing I’ve read today, and I’ve read some pretty dumb stuff today. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/54 "2013-04-04T21:18:53Z")
It is not enough to win. Someone must lose. It is not enough to survive. Someone must die. It is not enough to eat. Someone must go hungry. It is not enough to find a mate. Someone must remain alone. These are all essential truths. We are all one another’s enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Grey\_area](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grey\_area](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey_area)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/55 "2013-04-05T04:42:53Z")
> [@Airk](#): > > That post was the dumbest thing I’ve read today, and I’ve read some pretty dumb stuff today. I signed in to post something almost identical to this. For my contribution… Judging from a brief skim through his other posts, he seems to be Asian and male ( though I may be wrong) and as an Asian male, I am embarrassed for him. Dude has a serious inferiority complex and making us look like wieners. In terms of the linked blog post, I think by “fellow man” he means either “my own insecurities” or “internet trolls”. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750/56 "2013-04-05T07:30:10Z")
> [@colander](#): > > no, it’s vagina wasps Fortunately, the semen of white men is a natural vagina wasp repellent. That’s why all the fine blonde and Indian honeys get with us instead of Curious Man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-mans-worst-enemy-in-the-dating-world-is-another-man-do-you-agree-with-this-writer/654750.md?page=2)