# A message for bj0rn... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2000, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917 "2000-03-29T17:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![krish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@krish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/krish)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/81 "2000-04-11T22:06:00Z")
Look at bj0rn’s first post, and you’ll realize that in all the time he has been here, no one has been successful in making him change his “style.” [bj0rn’s first post](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000038.html) Good luck, but I suspect bj0rn will still type without capitalizing and continue his non sequiturs long after people lose interest in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/82 "2000-04-11T22:13:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Judging by your mis-spelling of my nick, maybe Rousseau does. Seems rather genital oriented. What’s the deal? Compensating? Okay, now I got a good lock on ya. You’re 14 at the very oldest, and you probably don’t have too many friends, so you like to hang out on the internet a lot. You most likely have a number of net-buddies (chat room and email pals), and I’d be willing to wager that you have an entire file full of soft-core porno that you pray your parents will never come across. Am I getting warm? If you are by any chance past your teenage years, you most likely didn’t continue your education beyond high school. You throw around sophmoric concepts that you think make you sound intelligent (such as this very loose interpretation of Freudian-inspired pseudopsychology that nobody who continued beyond Intro to Psych would ever utter). And you’ll probably reply by saying that you’re 25, very popular, have a underwear model for a girlfriend, drive a Mercedes S500, went to Princeton, and are a Nobel Prize-winning psychologist. > [@](#): > > I admit I am new to this SD msg board, and figured I’d be fodder for the agressive with my inital post on my observations. And I also know that if you’re not a sock-puppet (which is likely), you’ve at least lurked around here for quite some time. Or you could just be a savvy Internet message board veteran (this is admittedly my first and only MB, so I don’t know if the stuff that goes on here goes on elsewhere), which would seem to jibe with my original theory. > [@](#): > > Yours and WallyM7’s insults make up most of the childish-high-school-teeny-bopper content of the pages. For the record, we’re not the ones who are: a) using shorthand b) jumping into arguments with no base of knowledge, or c) spouting off (and misapplying) Intro to Psych concepts. (And, might I add, it feels strange to be aligned with Wally. This is new.) > [@](#): > > BTW Most of my chatting happens on my current Everquest addiction. Tis where I reared my chat stylings. Also for the record, I had not even read this sentence when I made my predictions at the beginning of this post. It seems to confirm my hypothesis. > [@](#): > > Morkster So does that. ## Rousseauster “History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” -Winston Churchill ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2000, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/83 "2000-04-11T23:20:00Z")
skupla, thanks for your awe-inspiring post. Awww. Wally-if i bleed will you not prick me-M7 ---
**Author:** ![CreoSote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@CreoSote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CreoSote)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/84 "2000-04-12T00:14:00Z")
Originally posted by Rousseau: \*\* > [@](#): > > Okay, now I got a good lock on ya. You’re 14 at the very oldest, and you probably don’t have too many friends, so you like to hang out on the internet a lot. You most likely have a number of net-buddies (chat room and email pals), and I’d be willing to wager that you have an entire file full of soft-core porno that you pray your parents will never come across. Am I getting warm? If you are by any chance past your teenage years, you most likely didn’t continue your education beyond high school. You throw around sophmoric concepts that you think make you sound intelligent (such as this very loose interpretation of Freudian-inspired pseudopsychology that nobody who continued beyond Intro to Psych would ever utter). And you’ll probably reply by saying that you’re 25, very popular, have a underwear model for a girlfriend, drive a Mercedes S500, went to Princeton, and are a Nobel Prize-winning psychologist. \*\* - sophomoric, pseudo-psychology I am 24 Don’t have a lot of friends, but the ones I do have I can honestly call friends and not just acquaintances. No net buddies. Between work, a kid and girlfirend I have only a few hours a week to spend on the net. You wouldn’t have a FILE full of soft-core porn, you’d have a DIRECTORY or if you are a microsquish zombie a FOLDER. Only UNIX or LINUX would look at it as a file and they still typically call it a directory. But I digress, I don’t have any porn, I have no need for it, my girlfriend takes care of that. No, still quite cold. never did college, but have an English credit I’ am a geek, I’ll admit, work with computers making decent pay. [ul]Divorced [li]1 kid,[/li][li]91 Jeep Cherokee[/li][li]Girlfriend is actually a waitress.[/li][li]as stated, never went to college, therefore no degree,[/li][li]and no Nobel prize, sorry.[/ul][/li]all in all, 1 out of 9 correct. including the assumption on how I’d be replying \*\* > [@](#): > > And I also know that if you’re not a sock-puppet (which is likely), you’ve at least lurked around here for quite some time. Or you could just be a savvy Internet message board veteran (this is admittedly my first and only MB, so I don’t know if the stuff that goes on here goes on elsewhere), which would seem to jibe with my original theory. > \*\* Yep, I lurked for a few days, but, I’ve been reading Cecil’s column for a 3 years, even saw several episodes on A&E. a) using shorthand - I see it’s too much for ya, so I’ll stop with the shorthand. b) jumping into arguments with no base of knowledge. - As many have stated, I simply made observations. c) spouting off (and misapplying) Intro to Psych concepts. - I might be guilty there, but the attempted insult seemed so childish. \*\* > [@](#): > > Also for the record, I had not even read this sentence when I made my predictions at the beginning of this post. It seems to confirm my hypothesis.\*\* There goes the hypothesis. Morkster - Let’s see how my UBB code works out… * * * Legal Notice: Receipt of this message constitutes your unconditional acceptance of agreement with all terms, conditions, conclusions and opinions, either expressed or implied, as interpreted by the author without further clarification. Use of any information contained herein [inclusive of any and all attachments] or omitted in part or in whole from the actual message is strictly prohibited and will be subject to collection of significant financial damages. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/85 "2000-04-12T12:59:00Z")
now, this is a flame war!!! creosote: darn…you propably ruined rousseaus image of you, now hes not going to name a directory in his porn collection after you. do note that i was laughing like crazy before i read roussaus last post. one begins to belive that he is truly a very inconsiderate person. bj0rn - propably not ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/86 "2000-04-12T13:45:00Z")
Well, since this is still supposed to be a thread for **bjOrn** , I have one question for him. Do you understand that your posts are not understood/intelligible/readable by the vast majority of people here the vast majority of the time? Wranglings about “style” and whatnot aside, I’m just curious if you really understand this. If you do, then you’re just an idiot; if you don’t, then you should take people’s observations a little more seriously. IMHO. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/87 "2000-04-12T19:10:00Z")
Go for it **BjOrn**!!! I believe you bruised his knuckles. Now try hitting his knee with your groin. ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/88 "2000-04-13T10:50:00Z")
and throwing my forhead onto his pavement eh? esprix: thats nice. enough is understood to satisfy my needs. bj0rn - chickens for sale…! ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/89 "2000-04-13T14:19:00Z")
OK, I said: > [@](#): > > … your posts are not understood/intelligible/readable by the vast majority of people here the vast majority of the time And your response was: > [@](#): > > enough is understood to satisfy my needs. Keeping in mind that what I said was not a topic to debate, but rather a _statement of fact_, you just said that you are satisfied that no one understands anything you say. Well, I think that about wraps it up for me, folks. Thanks for coming, and don’t forget to turn out the lights when you leave. To quote a great man: “Putz.” Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/90 "2000-04-13T14:28:00Z")
> [@](#): > > but rather a statement of fact and who are you to be stating facts like that? who are you to state the truth of facts like that? who are you to assume that a statement is a fact? who are you who cares? bj0rn - chickens for sale…! * * * * * * (You know, I find it helps to copy it to WordPad and then fix all the punctuation errors, etc., so they’re not so distracting. Then I usually light some incense, sacrifice a chicken to the spirit of Kate Turabian, and get really drunk. Then it actually starts to make sense.) - notthemama ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/91 "2000-04-13T15:08:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **bj0rn** : > > and who are you to be stating facts like that? who are you to state the truth of facts like that? who are you to assume that a statement is a fact? who are you who cares? I am a person who has actually read, understood, and thought about this thread (not to mention your posts) - **the majority of people on this board do not understand your posts.** Fact. Period. If you disagree, I suggest reading, re-reading, and re-reading again this entire thread, and all the other threads posts about you. But since the whole reason people get so frustrated withyou is that you have trouble understanding _other_ people’s posts, I guess you haven’t been able to comprehend this thread yourself. You don’t understand us, we don’t understand you. Time to move on. And who am I to care? Just another person who posts here, who I presume you want to understand what you have to say. Isn’t that why we post here in the first place, for conversation? If you’re unintelligible, then there’s no conversation to be had. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/92 "2000-04-14T09:08:00Z")
> [@](#): > > But since the whole reason people get so frustrated withyou is that you have trouble understanding other people’s posts really? thats the second statment of this nature you make, first you say that nobody understands me, now saying that i do not understand anybody else. tell you what, i am not going to claim your statements as false, i cant. just like you cant state them as true. dont know if you have read this… [therefore my plan is to speak as best i can](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000586.html) there are a lot of things i could say, but saying them would be wrong. and i guess saying this is wrong too… bj0rn - chickens for sale…! * * * (You know, I find it helps to copy it to WordPad and then fix all the punctuation errors, etc., so they’re not so distracting. Then I usually light some incense, sacrifice a chicken to the spirit of Kate Turabian, and get really drunk. Then it actually starts to make sense.) - notthemama ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/93 "2000-04-14T13:46:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **bj0rn** : > > really? thats the second statment of this nature you make, first you say that nobody understands me, now saying that i do not understand anybody else. tell you what, i am not going to claim your statements as false, i cant. just like you cant state them as true. **bjOrn** , if you would read this thread, and the others devoted to you, you _would_ see that I’m speaking the truth - you are incomprehensible most of the time. And when people try to talk to you about it, you don’t get it. Is that because you don’t understand what they’re saying, or that you don’t care? OK, maybe I was wrong - maybe you just don’t _care_ that you’re unintelligible. > [@](#): > > dont know if you have read this… > [therefore my plan is to speak as best i can](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000586.html) I’m not sure what relevance it has, as it’s from 5 months ago and your writing “style” hasn’t changed one whit, it seems. Are you _capable_ of writing comprehensively? Yes - hell, this post proves it. Do you _consistently_? No - most people still don’t understand you most of the time. (Yes, some people _do_ understand you some of the time, but the evidence suggests _most still don’t_ most of the time.) > [@](#): > > there are a lot of things i could say, but saying them would be wrong. and i guess saying this is wrong too… Saying something isn’t wrong, but saying it so other people understand you is the primary goal of a typewritten message board such as this. Esprix * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/94 "2000-04-14T14:03:00Z")
Originally posted by {b]Esprix:\*\* > [@](#): > > bjOrn, if you would read this thread, and the others devoted to you, you would see that I’m speaking the truth - you are incomprehensible most of the time Some clarification, please. Do you mean to say that **truth** is a function of popular opinion? I happen to understand bjOrn. :: ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/95 "2000-04-14T14:09:00Z")
thank you califboomer, it means alot. [:rolleyes:] esprix: do you know how to count? [/ :rolleyes:] bj0rn - chickens for sale…! * * * (You know, I find it helps to copy it to WordPad and then fix all the punctuation errors, etc., so they’re not so distracting. Then I usually light some incense, sacrifice a chicken to the spirit of Kate Turabian, and get really drunk. Then it actually starts to make sense.) - notthemama ---
**Author:** ![Bucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Bucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bucky)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/96 "2000-04-14T14:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by CalifBoomer: > **Originally posted by {b]Esprix:** > > Some clarification, please. Do you mean to say that **truth** is a function of popular opinion? > > I happen to understand bjOrn. > ::\*\* No, but comprehension is determined not by if people SHOULD understand but if they do. If it is true that most people do not understand Bjorn, then it is a truth to say that most people don’t understand Bjorn. What is hard to understand about that? Bucky ---
**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/97 "2000-04-14T14:57:00Z")
the truth is: most people dont even know me, have never read any of my text, do not understand english and/or icelandic nor have access to the internet. [something i shouldnt say :rolleyes:] if 1% of given readers understand a given text, what does that say about the other 99%? [/something i shouldnt say :rolleyes] bj0rn - chickens for sale…! * * * (You know, I find it helps to copy it to WordPad and then fix all the punctuation errors, etc., so they’re not so distracting. Then I usually light some incense, sacrifice a chicken to the spirit of Kate Turabian, and get really drunk. Then it actually starts to make sense.) - notthemama ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/98 "2000-04-14T15:18:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **CalifBoomer** : > > Some clarification, please. Do you mean to say that **truth** is a function of popular opinion? The “popular opinion,” as stated by the majority of posters on this board, is that **bjOrn** ’s posts are not understandable. That makes what I’m saying a true statement. > [@](#): > > I happen to understand bjOrn. As I said, there are some people that do, and he is not unintelligible all the time, just most of the time, which goes to the fact that he _can_ post understandably, but the majority of the time seems to choose not to. Esprix * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ## “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” {This space reserved for a Genuine WallyM7 Sig™} ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/99 "2000-04-14T15:19:00Z")
Which, now that I think of it, explains why you understand him, **Boomer** - you have also proven that you are _capable_ of posting intelligibly and sensibly, but you choose not to for the vast majority of the time. Esprix * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ## “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” {This space reserved for a Genuine WallyM7 Sig™} ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2000, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917/100 "2000-04-14T15:22:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **bj0rn** : > > thank you califboomer, it means alot. It shouldn’t - **Boomerboy** is much less respected than you are. Having him on your side doesn’t help. > [@](#): > > esprix: do you know how to count? Yes. Why do you ask? Esprix * * * ## [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)) ## “Never assume a malicious intent when stupidity will explain just as well.” {This space reserved for a Genuine WallyM7 Sig™} [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-for-bj0rn/5917.md?page=6)