# A message to all atheists, unbelievers, and lukewarm christians

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 25, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164 "2013-08-25T23:56:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/41 "2013-08-26T01:02:45Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That depends-are you a Reformed atheist Jew or an Orthodox atheist Jew?

Arggg! Not Reformed!

Reform. Not Reformed.

I’m an atheist conservative Jew. Chew on that! 😛

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/42 "2013-08-26T01:03:57Z")

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How am I supposed to “take it easy” while repenting of my sins daily? I’d be at it 24/7.

> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> And while I’ve heard that all dogs go to heaven

If a certain one of my dogs (a cocker spaniel) made it to heaven, then it’s smooth sailing for every other life form.

She was evil.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/43 "2013-08-26T01:08:20Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/44 "2013-08-26T01:11:21Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> nm

lo, and the truth be now knownest.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/45 "2013-08-26T01:12:57Z")

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An illiterate is coming to town and we’re happy about this?

If Jesusguy is using a computer to message us, he clearly hasn’t given up all his possessions as instructed.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/46 "2013-08-26T01:13:22Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Arggg! Not Reformed!
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> Reform. Not Reformed.
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> I’m an atheist conservative Jew. Chew on that! 😛

So what-I’m an Irish Jew from Guam.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/47 "2013-08-26T01:14:53Z")

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So, do they score points or something for these drive by preachings?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/48 "2013-08-26T01:15:37Z")

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> [@jesusguy](#):
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> For those who accepted jesus **but aren’t living righteously,** you need to repent for your sins daily and ask God for the strength and wisdom to live righteously.

Actually, according to the promotional literature I read, that’s not a requirement. You just need to accept him as your savior and you’re good to go.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/49 "2013-08-26T01:16:06Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> So what-I’m an Irish Jew from Guam.

You get 2 kinds of corned beef?

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/50 "2013-08-26T01:19:52Z")

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> [@jesusguy](#):
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> Jesus is coming back someday and he’ll back like a thief in the night. (1 Thessalonians 5:2) We need to examine our lives and get serious. For those who haven’t you need to accept jesus as your savior and repent for your sins to get to heaven - no other belief, religion, or way will get you there.
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> For those who accepted jesus but aren’t living righteously, you need to repent for your sins daily and ask God for the strength and wisdom to live righteously.
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> -God bless, take it easy.

Why did not one put it like that before? Guess I was wrong about everything and I’d better change my life. Thanks, jesusguy!

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/51 "2013-08-26T01:24:19Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Actually, according to the promotional literature I read, that’s not a requirement. You just need to accept him as your savior and you’re good to go.

Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/52 "2013-08-26T01:24:48Z")

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That first line of the OP made me think of something: is the song “Frosty the Snowman” just one big Jesus metaphor?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/53 "2013-08-26T01:43:17Z")

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No, its obviously Rudolph. Spurned, persecuted. Lights the way. On _Christmas_!? Duh.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/54 "2013-08-26T01:56:14Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> So what-I’m an Irish Jew from Guam.

Gefilte fish and cabbage?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/55 "2013-08-26T02:11:20Z")

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Atheist and Jew, that’s about half-way there, right? Jesus wasn’t an atheist, of course, but he _was_ a Jew. His Mom was and that settles it, right?

So maybe Jews get a free pass? Seems like the least God could do, under the circumstances…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/56 "2013-08-26T02:14:36Z")

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Why does the OP think that belief is important? Belief and faith are not the same thing, and it’s possible to have either one without the other.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/57 "2013-08-26T02:15:29Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Gefilte fish and cabbage?

Ever been to a Kosher luau? _Booring_.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/58 "2013-08-26T02:17:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So maybe Jews get a free pass?

I should hope so, they are the chosen people after all.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/59 "2013-08-26T02:19:32Z")

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> [@jesusguy](#):
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> Jesus is coming back someday and he’ll back like a thief in the night.

JG, do us all a favor, would you? Please post proof of the existence of a demigod named Jesus.

I’m assuming that you talk to something you think is Jesus. Please pass on the fact that if he comes around like a thief in the night, he’s probably gonna get shot.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/60 "2013-08-26T02:22:04Z")

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> [@jesusguy](#):
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> Jesus is coming back someday and he’ll back like a thief in the night.

Given the number of guns in the US, he probably should make it his last stop.

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