# A message to all atheists, unbelievers, and lukewarm christians **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 25, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164 "2013-08-25T23:56:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/101 "2013-08-26T12:17:23Z")
Modern life creates so many pressures that the least sound brains among us have become fried. Q.e.d. conservatism, gun nuts and People of God, among others. Everyone seems to need an outlet for their craziness. Me? I write terrible poetry and books no one reads. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/102 "2013-08-26T13:56:25Z")
It’s the “lukewarm Christians” slam that bugs me. “Atheists and unbelievers” I get: God is the bouncer at your club, and there’s a clear rule on who gets past the velvet rope. But then there are other people who’ve consulted their consciences, arrived at the conviction that there is God and Jesus is his human manifestation/conduit, and try to live as good people according to those precepts. That’s still not good enough for the Witnesses. But of course, that’s not witnessing; it’s cross-examining, and the correct reply is “asked and answered.” I’m long since disillusioned by the inherent paradox of an “atheist community,” so I wouldn’t know, but do they go around accusing each other of not being atheist enough? What’s the atheist version of Holier than Thou? “Ayer-theist” or “atheister?” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/103 "2013-08-26T14:21:37Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > It’s the “lukewarm Christians” slam that bugs me. > > “Atheists and unbelievers” I get: God is the bouncer at your club, and there’s a clear rule on who gets past the velvet rope. But then there are other people who’ve consulted their consciences, arrived at the conviction that there is God and Jesus is his human manifestation/conduit, and try to live as good people according to those precepts. > > That’s still not good enough for the Witnesses. But of course, that’s not witnessing; it’s cross-examining, and the correct reply is “asked and answered.” > > I’m long since disillusioned by the inherent paradox of an “atheist community,” so I wouldn’t know, but do they go around accusing each other of not being atheist enough? What’s the atheist version of Holier than Thou? “Ayer-theist” or “atheister?” “Athier than thou”. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/104 "2013-08-26T14:30:53Z")
> [@tarnation\_eudemonia](#): > > If Jesus comes like a thief in the night, can I shoot him under the “stand your ground” laws? You can shoot summarily on principle. Luke 19:29-35 is clear evidence that he was a horse thief, that constitutes a capital crime in some eras/regions. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/105 "2013-08-26T14:57:40Z")
> [@For You](#): > > You can shoot summarily on principle. Luke 19:29-35 is clear evidence that he was a horse thief, that constitutes a capital crime in some eras/regions. No statute of limitations? Not even for god? Wasn’t he already punished for various crimes? Rough crowd. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/106 "2013-08-26T15:00:50Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > In some states, yes. > > Then we’ll have entire new religions springing up around the central question of “What did Jesus die for this time?” > > I myself will be a member of the Church of the Holy .357 Magnum > [@MEBuckner](#): > > Instead of the Sign of the Cross, future believers will go > > “_Shhk-SHHK!_” > > and make the Sign of the Twelve-Gauge. I was led to believe the .45 was God’s Own Caliber. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/107 "2013-08-26T15:43:58Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > No statute of limitations? Not even for god? God exists outside of time. So, no. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/108 "2013-08-26T16:23:32Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > God exists outside of time. So, no. Bastard won’t stay dead anyway. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/109 "2013-08-26T16:29:32Z")
i’m trying to decide if ‘double jeapordy’ rules would apply - and if we can get God (the Father) on conspiracy since Christ was working in his name, etc. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/110 "2013-08-26T16:46:20Z")
Where will He get a lawyer? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/111 "2013-08-26T16:47:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Where will He get a lawyer? he’ll have to get a public defender, I’m sure - since he has no earthly riches. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/112 "2013-08-26T16:51:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Where will He get a lawyer? Hell is full of them. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/113 "2013-08-26T16:54:50Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > i was led to believe the .45 was god’s own caliber. _caliberist!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/114 "2013-08-26T16:55:19Z")
> [@jesusguy](#): > > Jesus is coming back someday and he’ll back like a thief in the night. (1 Thessalonians 5:2) We need to examine our lives and get serious. For those who haven’t you need to accept jesus as your savior and repent for your sins to get to heaven - no other belief, religion, or way will get you there. Is he bringing Moses with him? “uh-oh, here come the lepers.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/115 "2013-08-26T16:55:26Z")
> [@simster](#): > > he’ll have to get a public defender, I’m sure - since he has no earthly riches. > [@](#): > > Hell is full of them. Got to be a _bunch_ of them in Heaven! Some. A few. At least one. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/116 "2013-08-26T17:13:25Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Would it be too much to ask for a date/time? I mean, Christ, “someday”. Seriously? Typical man. Says he"ll call sometime and never does. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/117 "2013-08-26T17:15:37Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > _caliberist!!!_ Sure am. I believe the placement of shots on target is pre-ordained. ---
**Author:** ![sweeteviljesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@sweeteviljesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweeteviljesus)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/118 "2013-08-26T18:29:49Z")
Jesus Guy, you need to embrace the perfect message of God delivered through the Prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him. You need to worship the one true God and not the prophet Isa, peace be upon him. You should also not cast your pearls among swine. Mmmm, swine… ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/119 "2013-08-26T18:44:38Z")
hmmm - have we ever seen \*\*jesusguy \*\*and \*\*sweeteviljesus \*\*online together at the same time? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164/120 "2013-08-26T18:58:23Z")
> [@jesusguy](#): > > Jesus is coming back someday and he’ll back like a thief in the night. (1 Thessalonians 5:2) We need to examine our lives and get serious. For those who haven’t you need to accept jesus as your savior and repent for your sins to get to heaven - no other belief, religion, or way will get you there. > > For those who accepted jesus but aren’t living righteously, you need to repent for your sins daily and ask God for the strength and wisdom to live righteously. > > -God bless, take it easy. Jesus told me you were coming and to not listen to you [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-all-atheists-unbelievers-and-lukewarm-christians/667164.md?page=7)