# A message to you, Rudy
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 19, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001 "2020-11-19T23:44:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/1 "2020-11-19T23:44:40Z")
_Stop your messing around_
_Better think of your future_
_Time you straighten right out_
_Creating problems in town…_
> **[Rudy’s Hair Dye Streaks Down Face After ‘My Cousin Vinny’ Act-Out](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giulianis-hair-dye-streaks-down-face-after-my-cousin-vinny-performance)**
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> “It’s one of my favorite law movies,” Trump’s lawyer said, before acting out a scene from the 1992 film as evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 election.
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### Author:  [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/2 "2020-11-20T00:51:02Z")
I thought of this when I saw that. They still sell these, years after her death!
[https://www.amazon.com/Into-Tammy-T-Shirt-Bakker-Shirt/dp/B07GP6SVQ7](https://www.amazon.com/Into-Tammy-T-Shirt-Bakker-Shirt/dp/B07GP6SVQ7)
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/3 "2020-11-20T01:41:00Z")
There was a time when Giuliani had some credibility after NYC crime rate went down while he was mayor. I can barely even remember that. His legacy is an absolute joke now. He’ll be known to posterity as an embarrassing clown on the biggest stage.
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### Author:  [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/4 "2020-11-20T02:29:30Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> There was a time when Giuliani had some credibility after NYC crime rate went down while he was mayor.
The murder rate, and crime overall, were dropping precipitously in the three years _before_ Giuliani became mayor, but that is often left out in the telling of the Rudy Myth. There were so many factors involved in the drop, both nationally and in New York (including the hiring of William Bratton to head the Transit Police in 1990), but the Rudy Myth assigns all the credit to the so-called _broken windows_ style of policing. It just isn’t true.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/5 "2020-11-20T02:36:50Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> There were so many factors involved in the drop, both nationally and in New York (including the hiring of William Bratton to head the Transit Police in 1990), but the Rudy Myth assigns all the credit to the so-called _broken windows_ style of policing. It just isn’t true.
Even still, the myth is pretty much dead now. Nobody is even going to care about that anymore.
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### Author:  [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/6 "2020-11-20T02:41:41Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Even still, the myth is pretty much dead now. Nobody is even going to care about that anymore.
The guy got booed at Yankee stadium a few years ago, loudly and heartily. That was unthinkable in October 2001. By the time he joined forces with Trump, his reputation was already dead. He turned 9/11 into a money faucet and New Yorkers were disgusted.
What a shitshow.
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### Author:  [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/7 "2020-11-20T02:45:12Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> [Rudy Giuliani’s Hair Dye Streaks Down Face After ‘My Cousin Vinny’ Performance](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giulianis-hair-dye-streaks-down-face-after-my-cousin-vinny-performance)
Has it been figured out whether he was melting or leaking?
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/8 "2020-11-20T12:06:53Z")
“We knew Rudy had a screw loose, but now he’s leaking oil.”
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### Author:  [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/9 "2020-11-20T12:26:20Z")
I don’t know about My Cousin Vinny, but what he performed was clearly the [closing scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUVrtC5_So) of _Death in Venice_, Luchino Visconti’s film based on Thomas Mann’s novella. Great book, great film, but, alas! it did not end well. Sorry, Giuliani, roll the credits! Bye bye!
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### Author:  [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/10 "2020-11-20T13:10:59Z")
> [@Colibri](#):
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> Has it been figured out whether he was melting or leaking?
> [@Gyrate](#):
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> “We knew Rudy had a screw loose, but now he’s leaking oil.”
It’s not oil. It’s evil, like what Zorg had running down his face in _The Fifth Element_. Rudy has disappointed [Mr. Shadow](https://youtu.be/S-FVii-cRz4?t=50).
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### Author:  [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/11 "2020-11-20T13:27:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> There was a time when Giuliani had some credibility after NYC crime rate went down while he was mayor. I can barely even remember that. His legacy is an absolute joke now. He’ll be known to posterity as an embarrassing clown on the biggest stage.
When ever I see him talk or read what people write about him I think of that. Coming from someone that lives half a country away from NY and didn’t pay attention to politics in the mid-late 90’s, I was under the impression he was well liked as mayor, or at least not actively hated.
> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> The murder rate, and crime overall, were dropping precipitously in the three years _before_ Giuliani became mayor, but that is often left out in the telling of the Rudy Myth.
A few weeks ago I watched Fear City about the mafia in NY in the 70s/80s, before Rudy was a mayor. They seemed to paint him in a good light, at least when it came to dealing with mafia crime.
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### Author:  [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/12 "2020-11-20T19:22:03Z")
I was living in NYC back when he was mayor, and long before that. The man was ALWAYS a slimeball.
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### Author:  [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/13 "2020-11-20T19:58:13Z")
Oh, what a world, what a world…
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### Author:  [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/14 "2020-11-20T20:46:20Z")
Bravo! I laughed out loud.
j
(I know and love the movie, but for some reason failed to make the connection until you pointed it out).
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/15 "2020-11-20T20:50:39Z")
Maybe it’s dip, that substance from _Who Framed Roger Rabbit_. At this point, that’s the only thing to get rid of cartoon characters such as Guliani and that orange cartoon he’s a flack for.
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### Author:  [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/16 "2020-11-20T23:17:31Z")
All I know is that if it drips onto his shirt, he’s going to have it change it, which will require some untucking and tucking back in. I wonder if he could find a very young conservative blonde to help him out, as we know that that makes him happy.
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### Author:  [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/17 "2020-11-20T23:27:24Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> It’s not oil. It’s evil, like what Zorg had running down his face in _The Fifth Element_ . Rudy has disappointed [Mr. Shadow](https://youtu.be/S-FVii-cRz4?t=50).
Oh my god. 🤣
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### Author:  [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/18 "2020-11-20T23:36:16Z")
In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, Giuliani was widely hailed as “America’s mayor.” And he really, really was. President George W. Bush disappeared from public view, then came across at times as flailing a bit in his early public statements. Understandable, but not reassuring. Giuliani was a stark contrast. The press conference he gave, when asked about the casualty count, when he responded that the total was still unknown, but “the number of casualties will be more than any of us can bear, ultimately,” is permanently seared into my memory. He came across with an uncannily well-balanced mixture of grief, empathy, determination, and resolve. His steady presence was a balm to me, and I suspect many others. I think he probably literally saved lives.
And now, this. It’s truly tragic. Given his performance in the 2008 Republican presidential primaries, less than 7 years later, where he seemed to be deliberately milking the tragedy and trauma of 9/11 for personal political gain, it seems clear that “America’s mayor” Giuliani was always a chimera, but, still, I just can’t feel outraged or angered by his current performance. I’m just…saddened.
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### Author:  [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/19 "2020-11-21T14:43:57Z")
I think that, like Pence, Giuliani had some kind of insect on his head. But this one had diarrhea.
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-message-to-you-rudy/926001/20 "2020-11-21T14:58:29Z")
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