# A minor pitting: Cadbury's Chocolate **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 14, 2013, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831 "2013-09-14T09:07:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/41 "2013-09-17T13:25:47Z")
Blame Cadbury for selling then, if you have to blame somebody. If I was buying something, it might be chocolate, and it might be Cadbury’s. Be glad nobody eviler than Kraft bought them- it might have been Monsanto. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/42 "2013-09-17T13:42:08Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Yeah; in fact, I clicked on the link fully expecting a complaint about the subtly decreased size of Cadbury Creme Eggs, and was rather surprised to learn that they made _any other product._ Yep, count me in your group. I can’t recall seeing any other Cadbury product besides the eggs. ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/43 "2013-09-17T14:55:41Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Cadbury chocolate in the USA is made by Hersheys, which means it’s crap. > > I do miss the Old Gold when I lived in Oz. If your grocery store has an international aisle, check there for the UK imports. Oh no, I just realized this means I will have to buy an UK Dairy Milk bar and a US Dairy Milk bar and do a comparison test. O woe, O woe! ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/44 "2013-09-17T15:06:31Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Yep, count me in your group. I can’t recall seeing any other Cadbury product besides the eggs. :dubious: They are _only_ the second largest confectionary manufacturer in the world after Mars. That’s a lot of eggs. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/45 "2013-09-17T16:26:09Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > Yeah yeah, capitalism, blah blah. > > It’s not Kraft buying them that’s the problem. Difference is that Cadbury - a quaker family - was strongly rooted in the local community. It built homes, sports clubs, schools and colleges for its workers, it paid its staff a decent wage and gave them reasonable working conditions long before other companies where required to by law. It’s been a good and powerful local employer for almost 200 years. > > Kraft doesn’t give tuppence about the history and community around the brand. I know it’s the world we live in, but it doesn’t stop me feeling depressed about it. Yep. As a student at the University of Birmingham I lived in Northfield (Claines Road), in the Bournville Village Trust. All sorts of rules so as to keep the village/small town feel in the middle of one of the UK’s biggest cities. A certain number of fruit trees, no external TV aerials … although there were no pubs though. Had to go on a short walk to get to one of those. > **[Bournville Village Trust](https://www.bvt.org.uk/)** > > Serving communities since 1900 ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/46 "2013-09-17T18:24:15Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Cadbury chocolate in the USA is made by Hersheys, which means it’s crap. My local Vons (Safeway) stocks Hershey-made Cadbury, and it is indeed crap. My mother sent me a care package from Australia recently with a block of Cadbury Fruit ‘n’ Nut, and it doesn’t seem as nice as i remember it. The texture and the flavor both seem different. We have a store in San Diego that specializing in British goods, and they have British Cadbury, but importing it in small quantities like that makes it too expensive for “cheap” chocolate. I can pay the same price for Lindt in the supermarket, and it’s a better chocolate. It’s a shame, because i grew up with Cadbury, and even as an adult in Australia i ate it all the time. As for Hershey chocolate, i don’t understand how they sell even a single bar; it’s gross. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/47 "2013-09-17T20:17:19Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > :dubious: > > They are _only_ the second largest confectionary manufacturer in the world after Mars. That’s a lot of eggs. If they were the largest in the world by 10 times the size of their nearest competitor and in the USA they still only bothered to put the name Cadbury on their freakin eggs then that’s pretty much how they would be known. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/48 "2013-09-17T22:07:50Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > Letting Kraft buy out Cadbury was a sad, sad day. This is not an unexpected result. I really miss the white (chocolate) bar that came out of the U.K. It appears to have been dropped when Kraft shifted production to Poland. Anybody seen a Cadbury Dream bar around lately? [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com), [amazon.co.uk](http://amazon.co.uk). Both have the white ones. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/49 "2013-09-17T22:36:57Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > nooooooo, chocolate bars are always around in the u.s… i hoard the mini eggs. this year by keeping the hoard in work i managed to make it through to the end of august before i ran out. > > the chocolate bars are 2 for right now at cvs. i did notice they are smaller, and the section lines are smaller as well, but they are straight lines not a winding road. No, I know that other products exist, but as other dopers have said, “hand me a Cadbury” is _almost_ as unambiguous as “hand me a Kleenex” in the US. Oh yeah, the Mini Eggs are wonderful. And to firmly state: I am not a chocolate person. Mini Eggs are better than Creme Eggs, which I like for nostalgia and the exclusivity more than the taste. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/50 "2013-09-18T02:17:19Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > This literally breaks my heart. I’m from Birmingham where Cadbury’s was founded, I went to Bournville art college, where the Cadbury factory and model workers village was built. My high school was also founded by the Cadbury family back in the 1860s. Cadbury’s _is_ Birmingham. I had two Cadbury girls in my class. > > It’s tragic. _Poland? WTF?_ If we’re going to pit anything, can we pit Kraft please? And the Cadbury board that sold out to them? That’s what I was trying to subtly point out. I blame Kraft for how Cadbury quality and variety has gone downhill. Welcome to big business. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/51 "2013-09-18T02:18:48Z")
In Aus, Cadbury’s has been squeezed between better ‘swiss’ chocolate, and cheaper ‘american’ chocolate. They tried to to move up market, and found that in Aus no-one would buy better chocolate from a ‘local’ brand: we expect quality chocolate to be imported, mostly ‘Swiss’, sometimes ‘Belgium’. Then they tried to move down market, to compete with Nestle/Mars/Whittakers, and found their market collapsed when they had no point of differentiation. Note (1): they did not go ahead with the plan to use ‘vegetable oils’ in their brand-name chocolate. Note (2): lot’s of people like cheaper chocolates. I’m not saying you have to like expensive chocolate, just that there is a difference. It’s put them in a very sad situation: they have lost an enormous market share, and there is no obvious solution. The smaller they get, the less muscle they have for fighting back. If they weren’t backed by a multi-national factory-food company, I think they would have sold out to someone else. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/52 "2013-09-18T03:23:46Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > In Aus, Cadbury’s has been squeezed between better ‘swiss’ chocolate, and cheaper ‘american’ chocolate. > > They tried to to move up market, and found that in Aus no-one would buy better chocolate from a ‘local’ brand: we expect quality chocolate to be imported, mostly ‘Swiss’, sometimes ‘Belgium’. > Then they tried to move down market, to compete with Nestle/Mars/Whittakers, and found their market collapsed when they had no point of differentiation. > > Note (1): they did not go ahead with the plan to use ‘vegetable oils’ in their brand-name chocolate. > Note (2): lot’s of people like cheaper chocolates. I’m not saying you have to like expensive chocolate, just that there is a difference. > > It’s put them in a very sad situation: they have lost an enormous market share, and there is no obvious solution. The smaller they get, the less muscle they have for fighting back. If they weren’t backed by a multi-national factory-food company, I think they would have sold out to someone else. Oh, I know exactly what you mean, but I just think it’s funny that you’re contrasting Swiss chocolates vs. Nestlé. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/53 "2013-09-18T05:13:53Z")
> [@jabiru](#): > > See, this is where you lost me. I don’t buy chocolate because a block would last me, oh maybe an hour, perhaps two. > > My grievance with Cadbury is that their blocks of chocolate have become smaller and thinner and they no longer put whole nuts (brazils, hazelnuts) in them, only tiny fragments. The new ones are actually 220g compared to the 200g of the old ones. Even 200g is too much for one person - if I buy a 220g block I will eat the whole thing as a snack. In the olden days a block of Cadbury chocolate was 100g. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/54 "2013-09-18T05:17:18Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Cadbury chocolate in the USA is made by Hersheys, which means it’s crap. > > I do miss the Old Gold when I lived in Oz. I always get a faint vomit like after taste with Hersheys. I’m sure I had another brand of US chocolate that was quite good though. I can’t remember the name at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/55 "2013-09-18T07:05:54Z")
> [@Imasquare](#): > > The new ones are actually 220g compared to the 200g of the old ones. Even 200g is too much for one person - if I buy a 220g block I will eat the whole thing as a snack. In the olden days a block of Cadbury chocolate was 100g. The family blocks were 250g until the recent (couple of years ago) downsizing. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/56 "2013-09-18T07:30:17Z")
> [@jabiru](#): > > The family blocks were 250g until the recent (couple of years ago) downsizing. Yes, that’s right. I forgot about that. I still wish they had a 100g size - I’m a family of one without a stop button when it comes to chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2013, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/57 "2013-09-18T08:09:06Z")
> [@Imasquare](#): > > I’m a family of one without a stop button when it comes to chocolate. Stop button?!? Whassat? I used to like the threepenny chocolates when I was a kid. There was something deliciously melty about the small, thin chocolates of yesteryear. ---
**Author:** ![Wednesday\_Evening](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Wednesday\_Evening](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wednesday_Evening)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/58 "2013-09-19T19:33:53Z")
Slight hijack: Our weekly supermarket flyer is advertising Cadbury Creme Eggs for Halloween: Cadbury “Screme” Eggs. I understand they’re trying to be like Peeps and expand to other holidays, but eggs for Halloween? That’s just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/59 "2013-09-19T20:55:30Z")
So the yolk is green? Damn, now I want some Ecto Cooler. ---
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831/60 "2013-09-19T20:57:57Z")
> [@Wednesday\_Evening](#): > > Slight hijack: Our weekly supermarket flyer is advertising Cadbury Creme Eggs for Halloween: Cadbury “Screme” Eggs. I understand they’re trying to be like Peeps and expand to other holidays, but eggs for Halloween? That’s just wrong. there’s no wrong time to enjoy a creme egg [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-minor-pitting-cadburys-chocolate/668831.md?page=4)