# A "Miranda violation" we can all enjoy... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 6, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250 "2011-12-06T08:49:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/1 "2011-12-06T08:49:27Z")
Everyone knows the whole “You have the right to remain silent…” speech intoned on every cop show ever. That warning arose out of a SCOTUS case called _Miranda v. Arizona_, and now, if the cops fail to give the Miranda warning during custodial interrogation, any statements made by the defendant during said interrogation may not be used as evidence against him. This is sometimes called a Miranda violation. Well, the story in the link below has nothing to do with any of that, except for the name of the defendant. Anthony Miranda picked the wrong guy to rob. His “victim” was an presently unnamed martial arts expert and ultimate fighter that turned the tables and kicked Miranda’s ass… [Story here](http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/05/robbing-ultimate-fighting-expert-proves-to-be-bad-decision/). Love the mugshot. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/2 "2011-12-06T12:31:30Z")
Oh, I don’t know, it’s not really all that bad when you come down to it. I mean, there’s a small patch of skin on his upper right forehead that isn’t all banged up at all. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/3 "2011-12-06T15:25:18Z")
In context, it’s perhaps worth noting that Ernesto Miranda (the one from the famous lawsuit) died in a violent bar fight some years later. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/4 "2011-12-06T15:41:15Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Everyone knows the whole “You have the right to remain silent…” speech intoned on every cop show ever. That warning arose out of a SCOTUS case called _Miranda v. Arizona_, and now, if the cops fail to give the Miranda warning during custodial interrogation, any statements made by the defendant during said interrogation may not be used as evidence against him. This is sometimes called a Miranda violation. > > Well, the story in the link below has nothing to do with any of that, except for the name of the defendant. Anthony Miranda picked the wrong guy to rob. His “victim” was an presently unnamed martial arts expert and ultimate fighter that turned the tables and kicked Miranda’s ass… Shooting himself in the foot didn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/5 "2011-12-06T18:33:12Z")
Related story about another foolish criminal: An acquaintance was (and probably still is, if he’s still alive) a rather large man. Over six feet tall, very bulky. He was taking martial arts instruction to try to get into better shape. One evening, leaving the studio, he suddenly felt something poke him in the back and heard a demand for money. Well, one of the things martial arts teaches you is not to try to fight a gun, so he was about to comply. Suddenly the pressure on his back was gone. He turned around to find his martial arts teacher standing over the unconscious body of the would-be robber. “Just walk away,” the teacher said. And they both did. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/6 "2011-12-06T18:41:16Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Shooting himself in the foot didn’t help. It made it funnier, though. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/7 "2011-12-06T19:04:02Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > In context, it’s perhaps worth noting that Ernesto Miranda (the one from the famous lawsuit) died in a violent bar fight some years later. And that, while we’re on the subject, the police caught a suspect in Miranda’s death who subsequently invoked his Miranda rights. At least that’s what I’ve read and Miranda’s wikipedia entry backs it up. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/8 "2011-12-06T19:20:28Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > And that, while we’re on the subject, the police caught a suspect in Miranda’s death who subsequently invoked his Miranda rights. At least that’s what I’ve read and Miranda’s wikipedia entry backs it up. Except that what he actually said was, “I invoke my guy-I-just-killed rights!” It kind of worked against him. (Kidding!) ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/9 "2011-12-06T20:03:03Z")
So THATS where the saying “He shot himself in the foot came from”. Loved the link. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/10 "2011-12-06T20:37:00Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > It made it funnier, though. Especially as one of his charges is “aggravated discharge of a firearm.” Here, have a little more insult to go with your injury! ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/11 "2011-12-06T20:42:50Z")
I absolutely love the idea that shooting himself in the foot (literally) resulted in a charge being brought against him, which was in fact an instance of shooting himself in the foot (figuratively). Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/12 "2011-12-07T02:31:46Z")
Every now and then, you mess with somebody you really shouldn’t have messed with. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-miranda-violation-we-can-all-enjoy/605250/13 "2011-12-07T18:55:03Z")
It’s going to turn out that he got Chuck Norrised. Although a kid in that demographic should know better than to try to rob Chuck Norris!