# A Movie With Dumbass Women and Her Dumbass Friends

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 17, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-movie-with-dumbass-women-and-her-dumbass-friends/481701 "2009-01-17T03:33:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-movie-with-dumbass-women-and-her-dumbass-friends/481701/21 "2009-01-17T22:57:50Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Name one. Just because a guy is on screen the majority of the time doesn’t exactly make it male-centric.

Well, no. The fact that the plot orbits around a dude does, though.

And for that you have thousands of movies. I don’t know… most Hugh Grant stuff, for one.

Not only that, in those rom coms the opposite of “My big fat Greek wedding” is the norm: female characters have paper thin, archetypal personalities while the male guy resembles more a real person, therefore being the one who acts like a dumbass and has the dumb romance-wrecking friends. That’s what I meant. I honestly ignore why you feel the need to argue against that.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-movie-with-dumbass-women-and-her-dumbass-friends/481701/22 "2009-01-17T23:14:20Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> Well, no. The fact that the plot orbits around a dude does, though.
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> And for that you have thousands of movies. I don’t know… most Hugh Grant stuff, for one.

Yeah, the Hugh Grant stuff came to my mind, too. Four Weddings and a Funeral, Notting Hill, etc. Though those are aimed at women, they’re definitely from the guy’s perspective.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-movie-with-dumbass-women-and-her-dumbass-friends/481701/23 "2009-01-18T00:02:17Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Just thought of a real answer: Clueless

_Clueless_ is itself loosely based on Jane Austen’s _Emma_, which has been adapted several times for the screen. In all its incarnations _Emma_ is the story of a young woman who, while not really stupid, is nowhere near as smart as she thinks she is and nearly ruins her airhead new best friend’s life by trying to “improve” her. The romantic hero meanwhile is intelligent, rational, and has essentially no flaws other than being a bit stuffy.

> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Name one. Just because a guy is on screen the majority of the time doesn’t exactly make it male-centric.

Eddie Murphy’s _Coming to America_ springs to mind as not only a male-centered romantic comedy, but a Cinderella story from the prince’s perspective. Murphy’s prince also rejects a lot of stupid, annoying, or downright crazy women before finding his true love.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-movie-with-dumbass-women-and-her-dumbass-friends/481701/24 "2009-01-18T00:07:24Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Name one. Just because a guy is on screen the majority of the time doesn’t exactly make it male-centric.

**Dan In Real Life** , **The 40 Year Old Virgin** , **Grosse Point Blank** and I think an argument could be made for **Say Anything…** being male-centric (or Lloyd centric).

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