# A Name For Nationals (Indulging In Stereotypes)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 29, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296 "2023-08-29T16:41:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/1 "2023-08-29T16:41:31Z")
Canada is largely a country of immigrants. Following the First Nations, there were successive waves of immigration from various countries. Backgrounds varied. In addition to national symbols like beavers and maple leaves, people shared identity by invoking things like Tim Horton’s, hockey, mounted police on horseback, bad weather and similar symbols. Countless “souvenir” books have been written using these tired examples and politicians still use them as shorthand to appear patriotic. I have some Irish friends who sometimes used the word “Oirish” to refer to others, sometimes mockingly. These were contemporaries who seemed to engage in stereotypical behaviours or the culture which drew on sentimental songs, leprechauns and similar things. I don’t know how common this phrase is or if my understanding is fully correct. What I was mainly wondering, though, if other countries or cultures have a similar word. Or if you might invent one? I’ve never heard anyone use the phrase “Puck-pastry patriot” or “Coffeehouse Canadian”, much less a single word. But I’m open to suggestions. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/2 "2023-08-29T17:24:16Z")
You’ll sometimes hear the term “bagels-and-lox Jews” used to disparage non-observant Jews who still embrace Jewish culture. ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/3 "2023-08-29T18:36:11Z")
Switzerland has Bünzli: > **[Typically Swiss: Explaining Bünzli to expats](https://www.iamexpat.ch/expat-info/swiss-expat-news/typically-swiss-explaining-bunzli-expats)** > > A confused expat recently asked the social media platform Reddit about the meaning of the Swiss word Bünzli, and users gave some great answers. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/4 "2023-08-29T18:43:06Z")
Melodious one word phrases are hard. Canaventional? Canaformist? These wouldn’t apply to most Canadians, but they definitely describe many. Still, could say that about anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/5 "2023-08-29T18:46:37Z")
Canadjan-eh? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/6 "2023-08-29T19:06:02Z")
Always thought that was the American impression of any Canadian. But I guess it is a stereotype, so works in this thread. I kind of like “stubbies” except: a) few under the age of 55 would understand it b) not sure how regional this was, as I do not satisfy the first condition ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/7 "2023-08-29T19:12:02Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > You’ll sometimes hear the term “bagels-and-lox Jews” used to disparage non-observant Jews who still embrace Jewish culture. Sounds like the C&E Catholics. They only attend church on Christmas and Easter. Or the even lazier “Hatched, Matched and Dispatched”, who show up for their baptism, their wedding, and their funeral. > [@Kropotkin](#): > > Canadjan-eh? What was wrong with the traditional “Hoser”? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/8 "2023-08-29T19:16:35Z")
I’m reminded of this [Molson Canadian beer commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMxGVfk09lU) from 2000. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/9 "2023-08-29T19:20:27Z")
I once heard a Nez Perce student refer to “Apple Indians”, meaning “red on the outside, white on the inside”. Not sure if that’s what you’re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/10 "2023-08-29T19:47:07Z")
Not really. There are plenty of similar epithets. Meaning I am going for is “from there, _but more so_”, maybe in a more factual than derogatory sense, that does **not** encompass merely being “from there”. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/11 "2023-08-29T19:52:32Z")
Hosers? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/12 "2023-08-29T19:56:42Z")
Are all Canucks hosers or just those who watch the Great White North? ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/13 "2023-08-29T22:13:55Z")
A Down-Easter who is “from away?” If you know, you know. Every one else, it means someone posing as a Mainer who isn’t/ ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/14 "2023-08-30T00:08:15Z")
I’ve heard them called “Upper Canadians”. But are you a townie or a bayman? ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/15 "2023-08-30T12:36:29Z")
I’ve often heard people who make a big show of their Irish heritage, but were born elsewhere or whose Irish heritage is somewhat distant as ‘Plastic Paddies’. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/16 "2023-08-30T15:03:56Z")
Is the question about people who knowingly adopt the stereotypical trappings of one’s culture, without actually being that way? The first thing that comes to mind around here is the classic “drugstore cowboy” concept, where someone dresses like a cowboy, but isn’t actually one. You see a lot of those around here- any country bar/dance place that’s not actually _in_ the country will be loaded with that sort. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/17 "2023-08-30T15:37:17Z")
I think that’s also the origin of the idiom “all hat and no cattle.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/18 "2023-08-30T16:00:26Z")
The question was originally about people of a culture who adopt and exaggerate schmaltzy characteristics of it. But variations on the theme are welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Wisest\_Novel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wisest_novel/32/13329_2.png) [@Wisest\_Novel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisest_Novel)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/19 "2023-09-17T16:42:03Z")
I think this is actually the opposite of what the OP is looking for (folks who highlight or exaggerate their connection to a culture), but it’s interesting nonetheless. In the Hispanic community around me, there’s a similar term, “Coco” (coconut). It means a person who is brown on the outside, white on the inside. Around me, at least, I hear it more as descriptive than judgemental, as in, “He’s a coco, so don’t talk to him in Spanish.” ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296/20 "2023-09-17T16:57:03Z")
> [@Wisest\_Novel](#): > > In the Hispanic community around me, there’s a similar term, “Coco” (coconut). It means a person who is brown on the outside, white on the inside. This is probably uniform amongst ethnic minorities in America. My stepmother, who was a Chinese immigrant from Hong Kong, would refer to ABC’s (“American Born Chinese”) as “bananas” (yellow on the outside, white in the middle). _She was a mean woman._ For the OP, people who embrace the modern Florida lifestyle may be called “Florida Man”. And those who claim a Florida ancestral legacy may call themselves “Florida Crackers”. > **[Florida cracker](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker)** > > Florida crackers were colonial-era British, American pioneer settlers in what is now the U.S. state of Florida; the term is also applied to their descendants, to the present day, and their subculture among white Southerners. The first crackers arrived in 1763 after Spain traded Florida to Great Britain following the latter's victory over France in the Seven Years' War, though much of traditional Florida cracker folk culture dates to the 19th century. > The term cracker was in use during the Elizab... [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-name-for-nationals-indulging-in-stereotypes/989296.md?page=2)