# A new movie game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 21, 2005, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538 "2005-03-21T11:33:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/41 "2005-03-22T15:05:39Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Joseph Fiennes  
> Geoffrey Rush

One of the two is already done w/Shakespeare in Love.

A second one: Elizabeth.  
Since solving half of two is more or less equal to solving one, let’s go back a bit for the next question:

Sydney Greenstreet  
Peter Lorre

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/42 "2005-03-22T15:25:46Z")

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Cradle will Rock  
Elizabeth

Both correct, but for different puzzles.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/43 "2005-03-22T15:46:11Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> One of the two is already done w/Shakespeare in Love.
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> A second one: Elizabeth.  
> Since solving half of two is more or less equal to solving one, let’s go back a bit for the next question:
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> Sydney Greenstreet  
> Peter Lorre

**The Maltese Falcon & Casablanca**

Lee Marvin & Ernest Borgnine

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**Author:** ![bclouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@bclouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bclouse)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/44 "2005-03-22T21:22:29Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Lee Marvin & Ernest Borgnine

It’s been quite a few hours since you posted, Astorian. Could you give us any hints?

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/45 "2005-03-22T21:42:28Z")

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Well one of them is **The Dirty Dozen**. Can’t come up with the other one, though.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/46 "2005-03-22T23:24:02Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Well one of them is **The Dirty Dozen**. Can’t come up with the other one, though.

The first was easy, but I didn’t want to post half an anwer again. I’m totally stumped on the second one, though.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/47 "2005-03-23T02:58:09Z")

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Flailing stab in the dark here, but were they both in \*Paint Your Wagon \* or _Cat Ballou_?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/48 "2005-03-23T04:22:30Z")

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I didn’t think my entry was so diffifult! I apologize.

“The Dirty Dozen” is correct. The other movie I was thinking of ended with a violent confrontation on a freight train, between a hobo (Marvin) and a railroad bull (Borgnine) in the Depression era.

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**Author:** ![bclouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@bclouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bclouse)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/49 "2005-03-23T06:21:56Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I didn’t think my entry was so diffifult! I apologize.
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> “The Dirty Dozen” is correct. The other movie I was thinking of ended with a violent confrontation on a freight train, between a hobo (Marvin) and a railroad bull (Borgnine) in the Depression era.

I know this one! **Emperor of the North Pole**. I remember watching this on TV as a kid. There are parts of the movie etched in my brain. Borgnine is such a sadistic SOB. When he used the lead weight and rope on Lee Marvin and Keith Carradine, I just cringe. The shaving scene, the brutal fight at the end. Wow! I don’t believe it’s out on DVD.

Anyhow, since no one got both movies, I’d say it’s Astorian turn again.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/50 "2005-03-23T12:46:24Z")

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> [@bclouse](#):
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> I know this one! **Emperor of the North Pole**. I remember watching this on TV as a kid. There are parts of the movie etched in my brain. Borgnine is such a sadistic SOB. When he used the lead weight and rope on Lee Marvin and Keith Carradine, I just cringe. The shaving scene, the brutal fight at the end. Wow! I don’t believe it’s out on DVD.

I’d never heard of that one. I my first guess was _The Wild Bunch_ (that one’s etched in my brain from my childhood… damn you, Sam Peckinpah!), but only Borgnine was in that.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/51 "2005-03-23T13:00:33Z")

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Okay, how about Jack Nicholson & Scatman Crothers?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/52 "2005-03-23T13:03:36Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Okay, how about Jack Nicholson & Scatman Crothers?

Oh, got it, but just because of the other movie game:

_One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_ (Crother’s plays an orderly)  
_The Shining_ (Crother’s plays the groundskeeper)

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/53 "2005-03-23T14:34:48Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Oh, got it, but just because of the other movie game:
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> _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_ (Crother’s plays an orderly)  
> _The Shining_ (Crother’s plays the groundskeeper)

New puzzle?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/54 "2005-03-23T20:26:13Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> New puzzle?

Sorry, I’ve been a bit swamped.

How about Woody Allen and Diane Wiest? I think they’ve been in more than one together, but I don’t have time to double check.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/55 "2005-03-23T20:51:22Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Sorry, I’ve been a bit swamped.
> 
> How about Woody Allen and Diane Wiest? I think they’ve been in more than one together, but I don’t have time to double check.

Hannah and Her Sisters  
Radio Days

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Rob Lowe  
Ally Sheedy

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/56 "2005-03-23T20:54:05Z")

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Actually, though Wiest appeared in several Woody Allen movies, the only time they both appeared together on screen was in **Hannah and Her Sisters**. (Allen was narrator of **Radio Days** , but didn’t appear.) And though Wiest was in **The Purple Rose of Cairo, September,** and **Bullets Over Broadway** with Woody as director, he didn’t appear in any of those.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/57 "2005-03-23T21:03:06Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Actually, though Wiest appeared in several Woody Allen movies, the only time they both appeared together on screen was in **Hannah and Her Sisters**. (Allen was narrator of **Radio Days** , but didn’t appear.) And though Wiest was in **The Purple Rose of Cairo, September,** and **Bullets Over Broadway** with Woody as director, he didn’t appear in any of those.

I assumed “appear” includes narration, rather than a literal “saw the face of.”

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**Author:** ![bclouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@bclouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bclouse)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/58 "2005-03-23T21:20:26Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I assumed “appear” includes narration, rather than a literal “saw the face of.”

Well, I think narration is being fairly liberal as a definition as “appearence” in a film. But I can let it slide. It probably won’t factor in very many questions (I hope).

I say it’s still Bicker’s turn with **Rob Lowe** and **Ally Sheedy**.

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**Author:** ![bclouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@bclouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bclouse)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/59 "2005-03-23T21:24:14Z")

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I meant to write:

> [@bclouse](#):
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> Well, I think narration is being fairly liberal as a definition **of** “appearence” in a film. But I can let it slide. It probably won’t factor in very many questions (I hope).

So sorry

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2005, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-movie-game/295538/60 "2005-03-23T21:33:53Z")

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> [@bclouse](#):
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> Well, I think narration is being fairly liberal as a definition as “appearence” in a film. But I can let it slide. It probably won’t factor in very many questions (I hope).

I would have no heartburn using _Toy Story_ as a partial answer to “Tom Hanks and Tim Allen,” nothwithstanding the fact that neither actor’s likeness appears in the film.

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