# A New New Battlestar Galactica **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 8, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602 "2014-04-08T00:48:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/21 "2014-05-12T03:12:16Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Will this be the start of a movie franchise with sequels, or a one off? > > I HOPE they don’t find present day Earth. Or ancient Earth. Make it future Earth, if anything. Yes! _Battlestar for the Planet of the Apes_ – It writes itself. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/22 "2014-05-12T13:48:21Z")
Could be worse, at least they’re not rebooting Galactica 1980… \ ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/23 "2014-05-12T15:06:43Z")
I don’t see how taking another run at it can hurt. For all the qualities of the reboot you could of had more actual fun and cheer by listening to an hour of Morissey every week. > [@MacTech](#): > > Could be worse, at least they’re not rebooting Galactica 1980… > \ Well, that was the one with the human style Cylons. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/24 "2014-05-12T19:18:27Z")
> [@nevadaexile](#): > > As Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan,The Three Musketeers, Zorro,Batman,etc have proven time and again, there isn’t a property which cannot be successfully “rebooted” if it is done by a skilled hand. After all, it’s a poor miner that cannot find new veins of gold in any narrative. And as Tarzan, the Ape Man; The Legend of Zorro; every iteration of The Three Musketeers I’ve ever seen, Joel Shumaker’s Batman, not to mention The Lone Ranger, Terminator: Salvation; Godzilla (the 90s version); and Supermen 4 and 5 proved there isn’t a property so beloved that some director can’t take a massive shit on it. ---
**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/25 "2014-05-12T19:24:58Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > And as Tarzan, the Ape Man; The Legend of Zorro; every iteration of The Three Musketeers I’ve ever seen, Joel Shumaker’s Batman, not to mention The Lone Ranger, Terminator: Salvation; Godzilla (the 90s version); and Supermen 4 and 5 proved there isn’t a property so beloved that some director can’t take a massive shit on it. I have to disagree about the Three Musketeers as the 1970s version was quite good as was its sequel The Four Musketeers. Both are well-crafted films which stand the test of time. While Charlton Heston as Cardinal Richelieu was probably miscast, the rest of group performed admirably. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/26 "2014-05-12T19:35:36Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > reboot the Spiderman movie franchise immediately after establishing it. Spider-Man came out in 2002. Spider-Man 2 in 2004, Spider-Man 3 in 2007. Amazing Spider-Man came out in 2012. In no way, shape, or form, can that be considered ‘immediately after establishing’ the Raimi series. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/27 "2014-05-12T22:01:20Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Spider-Man came out in 2002. Spider-Man 2 in 2004, Spider-Man 3 in 2007. > > Amazing Spider-Man came out in 2012. In no way, shape, or form, can that be considered ‘immediately after establishing’ the Raimi series. …Spider-Man 4, directed by Raimi, was planned to come out in 2011. Raimi walked away from the franchise in 2010 when the decision was made to reboot. So I don’t think that what Amateur Barbarian said is unfair. ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/28 "2014-05-13T02:40:11Z")
So, are they going to throw a big curveball to the fanbase by switching Starbuck’s gender? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/29 "2014-05-13T04:04:51Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …Spider-Man 4, directed by Raimi, was planned to come out in 2011. Raimi walked away from the franchise in 2010 when the decision was made to reboot. So I don’t think that what Amateur Barbarian said is unfair. 10 years and 3 movies is not, in _any_ reasonable definition, ‘immediately after the franchise was established’. Arguing that the Raimi series still had steam in it? Go ahead. Pretending that it was barely established - that it, in fact, hadn’t already been around longer than most franchises - is silly. (Also, you have cause and effect backwards - the series was rebooted because Raimi left, because the fourth film wasn’t coming along.) ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/30 "2014-05-13T04:35:05Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > 10 years and 3 movies is not, in _any_ reasonable definition, ‘immediately after the franchise was established’. > > Arguing that the Raimi series still had steam in it? Go ahead. > > Pretending that it was barely established - that it, in fact, hadn’t already been around longer than most franchises - is silly. > > (Also, you have cause and effect backwards - the series was rebooted because Raimi left, because the fourth film wasn’t coming along.) …I’m not arguing anything. Calm down dude. No-one said anything was “barely established.” And I haven’t got cause and effect backwards at all. And I’m not pretending anything. You know exactly what he meant and you know exactly what I meant. There was going to be a fourth movie in 2011: instead they rebooted the series in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/31 "2014-05-13T09:44:28Z")
I just don’t get the fascination for “Battlestar Galactica.” It was just never that good. The original series sucked on ice. The SciFi Channel series was MUCH better, HUGE improvement, but still, in my opinion, kinda “meh.” Now a movie based on the series. Hollywood just keeps spinning out crap from crap. Really, how about an original story? ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/32 "2014-05-13T11:58:36Z")
For comparison, _The Omega Man_ came out less than a decade after _The Last Man On Earth_. Both movies, of course, are adaptations of _I Am Legend_ (the next attempt at adapting the book didn’t come around for a few more decades) The \*Star Trek \*franchise was rebooted over a similar timeline (seven years between Nemesis and the 2009 _Star Trek_). Personally, I’m all for it. It’s fun to see what new angles a newcomer takes to an older work, like listening to covers of songs. Not to mention that I’m always a fan of sci-fi films with space battles and robots and what not. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/33 "2014-05-13T12:33:21Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I just don’t get the fascination for “Battlestar Galactica.” It was just never that good. The original series sucked on ice. The SciFi Channel series was MUCH better, HUGE improvement, but still, in my opinion, kinda “meh.” Now a movie based on the series. Hollywood just keeps spinning out crap from crap. Really, how about an original story? The fascination with Battlestar Galactica is that, in its time, it was the _only_ option for Sci-Fi after Star Wars ignited that interest. It was crap, but if you wanted Sci-Fi, that’s what you were watching (and, it was no worse crap than all of the other crap airing in its time). So the people who only had Battlestar Galactica to tide them over after Star Wars harbor quite a bit of fond nostalgia for it. Those people are now influential enough to get a series approved. Furthermore, remakes and based-ons are hugely popular now because they come with a built-in audience who will see the show/movie/whatever _just because it is based on something_. The nostalgia audience will tune in to watch a new BSG, the comic book guys will tune in to watch a Marvel show. That guaranteed audience lessens the risks of a new show, and lowers the bar for them to get made. De novo shows or movies are held to a much higher standard because there is no guaranteed audience built in – a movie like _Inception_ needs good writing _and_ star-power attached to get made. Maybe with higher risk there’s also a chance of better reward, but the safe bet is the surest. Funny thing is, even with the baked-in audience of a rework/adaptation, the baked-in audience isn’t who they focus on – they’re the guaranteed consumers. The ones the industry is interested in are the potential _new_ consumers. Hence, when these things are seen, often the bitterest people complaining are those sure-thing viewers. When nuBSG came out, the rancor of the old school Battlestar fans was great. I’ve no doubt that this re-remake – with _two_ sets of true believers – will reap double the rage. Which means it’ll have an okay premere with the built-in viewers… who will then vent endlessly about their disappointment, probably tanking the show. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/34 "2014-05-13T17:42:40Z")
> [@nevadaexile](#): > > I have to disagree about the Three Musketeers as the 1970s version was quite good as was its sequel The Four Musketeers. Both are well-crafted films which stand the test of time. While Charlton Heston as Cardinal Richelieu was probably miscast, the rest of group performed admirably. I never saw that version. My only references were the 1993, 1998, 2001, and 2011 films involving Musketeers (which I guess would be “reboots”). It says something to me that the “best” version of those films IMHO was the one staring Jack Bauer, Tiger Blood Warlock, Robin and Oliver Platt. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602/35 "2014-05-13T17:56:29Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I just don’t get the fascination for “Battlestar Galactica.” It was just never that good. The original series sucked on ice. The SciFi Channel series was MUCH better, HUGE improvement, but still, in my opinion, kinda “meh.” Now a movie based on the series. Hollywood just keeps spinning out crap from crap. Really, how about an original story? Audiences simply don’t get tired of watching the tale of Colonial boat-people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-new-new-battlestar-galactica/685602.md?page=1)